Gar Forman: “The Bulls are too loyal, Mr. Wade.”

Dwyane Wade recently dropped a mini-bombshell on the Bulls’ free agent dreams: Because Michael Jordan and Scottie Pippen aren’t on Chicago’s payroll at the moment, Wade has doubts about the organization’s loyalty.

When a team is in the market for a superstar, that team probably doesn’t want on-the-market superstars openly questioning the organization’s loyalty in the press. It just looks bad. Why not tell everybody that Jerry Reinsdorf bathes in human blood and survives on an all-kitten diet, Dwyane?

Well, Bulls GM Gar Forman — who somewhat laughably claims he is not addressing Wade specifically — wants the world at large to know that the Bulls are actually pretty darn loyal if you stop to look at the facts.

To wit, here’s a list of the former players whom the Bulls have hired as front office employees, coaches or broadcasters: John Paxson, Bill Cartwright, Randy Brown, Bill Wennington, Stacey King, Pete Myers and B.J. Armstrong.

And that’s not all. As Michael Gibbons of the Bleacher Report points out: “The late great Johnny ‘Red’ Kerr was the team’s first coach and was a longtime broadcaster. Jerry Sloan, who has his number retired, worked his way up as a scout before becoming the head coach. His coaching tenure lasted less than three seasons. The late Norm Van Lier was connected to the team in many ways, mostly through the broadcasting side. Bob Love, who also has his number hanging from the rafters, can be seen at almost every single Bulls game and helps out greatly with all the Bulls charities.”

Gibbons also reminds us that Miami Heat president Pat Riley once nudged Stan Van Gundy out the door so he could return to coaching. And if you do a little reading between the lines, it seems like Riles is considering doing the same thing to current Heat coach Erik Spoelstra.

And while it’s true that Jordan and Pippen — the two biggest names on the Former Chicago Bulls All-Star Team — aren’t and haven’t been on the Bulls’ payroll since their playing days, it could be argued that role players need loyalty more than superstars do. Plus, last time I checked, the Boston Celtics don’t have Bill Russell or Larry Bird on staff. The Utah Jazz never hired John Stockton or Karl Malone. Isiah Thomas isn’t working for the Detroit Pistons. So on and so forth.

Not that Forman wants to argue about it. He just wants people to know what’s what: “Anyone who would question our loyalty is obviously misinformed. I think it absolutely ignores our record, which speaks for itself. We have a number of ex-players that are — and have been — employed within our organization within a variety of capacities, ranging from the front office to the coaching staff, in our business office, as part of our broadcasting teams. We take great pride in not only how we treat our current players, but also in how we treat our former players.”

Of course, Forman couldn’t resist making a pitch too: “What I read and what I hear the players say is that winning is the most important thing. And we believe, like I’ve said before, with our talented young nucleus of players and the flexibility that we’ve created to add to that core that we’re set up to have great success here for many years to come.”

Meanwhile, Randy Brown — a former Bulls player and current director of player development — said: ”I was shocked. I talked to D-Rose [Derrick Rose] right after we both saw the article, and he didn’t understand what D-Wade was saying. I told him this thing completely threw me off stride.”

You’re not the only one, Randy.

In fact, Wade himself is trying to distance himself from his comments: ”I’m not taking shots at the Bulls and the organization. I respect the organization. … It’s just my opinion when the question was asked about what’s most important to you, I said one of the most important things is loyalty.”

Uh huh. Suuuuuure, Dwyane.

Henry Thomas, the Chicago-based attorney who represents both Wade and Chris Bosh in partnership with CAA Sports, added: ”No. 1, there were some statements that Dwyane made that were taken out of context. ‘That was why it was very important that clarification was posted as quickly as possible. He made a point to say that he does not know, other than as an outside observer, much about the Bulls’ organization. Growing up here, he, of course, heard some things that were said with regard to how matters were handled with Michael and Scottie and even Phil [Jackson].

”But for him at this point to make an educated judgment about the loyalty that exists between the Bulls and former players, really not positioned to do that.”

No. He’s really not.

Here’s the money shot: when he was asked if Wade has ruled out the Bulls as a possible destination when he becomes a free agent this summer, Thomas said: ”Absolutely not.”

There you have it. Dwyane Wade is still in play.

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87 Responses to Gar Forman: “The Bulls are too loyal, Mr. Wade.”

    Dj June 1, 2010 at 6:50 am #

    Yes, I did say most of that stuff about Lebron not coming to Chicago.

    What is your point again? (that was just my strong opinion)

    What don’t tell me you enjoy reading your own comments? And you actually think your the smartest guy that knows everything about the Bulls this offseason? Well you don’t and neither will I!

    And I still see you as a changing words lil bitch like always!!! lol

    By the way, Bill Thomas and Lopez are not me stupid!

    o0o and don’t forget to also log in as trm3, Luke, and other people names you made up to talk more shit to me. That way you can actually feel good about yourself by having all those freak ass friends you made up!

    HOw sad… Get a life MAX….. REally GET a LIFE!!! lol

    Trm3 June 1, 2010 at 6:54 am #

    Testin us my ass! Ur retarded! lol

    Btw DJ, u don’t have to post 5 or 6 more times trying to edited urself, we’ll figure it out. If we all can read Reggie’s novel I’m sure we’ll understand what u were meaning to say.

    Dj June 1, 2010 at 6:56 am #

    AND I NEVER SAID ANY SUPERSTAR WILL NOT COME TO CHICAGO THIS SUMMER STUPID! I only said Lebron James or D. Wade will probably not come to Chicago. YOU see, HEre is another example of you changing my words around like you always do like a lil bitch. lol

    How sad Max….. HOw sad you are………………………………………………….

    Trm3 June 1, 2010 at 6:59 am #

    Sorry DJ..Max and I are not the same guy, having said that, U, Bill, and Andres Lopez are.

    Bill thomas June 1, 2010 at 6:59 am #

    Man what is going on here lol By the way Max, like I told you before I have my own opinions as well and I am not control by DJ you retard. I hopefully the Bulls get something big this summer rather if it is Lebron James or solid players.

    GO BULLS!!!

    DJ June 1, 2010 at 7:00 am #

    I am sorry what was that Max? I mean Trm3 lol F**k off you lil bitch lol

    Max June 1, 2010 at 7:03 am #

    Yeah I have one buddy. A really good one actually. You beat your chest and talk all the shit you want. Your post make you look dumb as hell and honestly call me all the names you want, it doe not bother me one bit. I’m still wondering what words I have ever changed around. I think I have been consistent with what I have said from the start.

    In regards to Reggie. I would say that 3 or 4 good players is always a good idea. But the reason I think we need a Superstar is because I don’t know if I see the trait in D.Rose that would make him a true Alpha dog. He is a worker and a stud but I think he might benefit from a true leader on the team.

    In no way am I talking down on Rose. I think he will be a top guard in the league for years to come. I just see him as more Robin than Batman. Noah is a great talent as well. He has his limitations though.

    DJ June 1, 2010 at 7:06 am #

    It’s funny, after I made Max look stupid, Trm3 writes a comment right away defending his bf I mean himself…. HOw sad is that??? lol

    Max June 1, 2010 at 7:10 am #

    Max, your one of those types of people that give the Bulls GM’s dumb idea that we can actually get some1 like Lebron James. (Please don’t make me laugh.) What makes you think he would want to come to Chicago? Out of all the options he has were he can get more money like: NY, NJ & Miami. Another thing, he said it last time in his interview not to long ago: he only respect D. Rose not the Bulls organization or team. Plus he does not want to be known as the next MJ in Chicago. He wants to be known as Lebron James only! that another reason why he would not want to come to Chicago.

    Another thing Max, he is not leave Cleveland! even if his team lost against the Celtics in the playoffs today, he still loves his hometown Ohio. And what makes you think that Cleveland has no more money left? May I remind you that Shaq is a free-agent this summer and his big 23 million dollar contract is coming off the book this year as well as other players like: Zydrunas Ilgauskas, Leon Powe, Jawad Williams & Coby Karl. So they still have the chance to go after a top star player like the Bulls do.

    Another thing MaX, do you know what is funny? I use to think just like you when I was a lil kid, hoping that each year the Bulls GM’s would bring in a top super star player to Chicago and frankly that is not going to happen until we get a new Bulls owner and a new Bulls gm.

    Comment by DJ — May 14, 2010 @ 5:44 am

    There is where you said why would he come to chicago when he has so many better options

    Max June 1, 2010 at 7:14 am #

    Notice that I did not mention All-Star player like: Boozer, Bosh, Wade, Amare, Joe Johnson and Lebron. (Hint: none of them will come here and they are all expensive and kind of old already.)

    Comment by Dj — May 15, 2010 @ 6:45 am

    That is when you say none of them will come here. The only person that changes up words is you. I know, I know I’m a bitch and this and that but in reality your an ignorant pile of shit.

    DJ June 1, 2010 at 7:14 am #

    I other words you don’t have faith in Rose??? WOW…. I see him as a Batman-Alpha dog to this team and I have a lot of faith in him because he was our top 1 round draft pick with very high expectation and so far he has done really well and he is still improving. That why I said all we need is 4-5 additional solid players that fix well with Rose and we are set. Hey if we can add Lebron, Wade or Bosh then that is fine with me….

    DJ June 1, 2010 at 7:20 am #

    YES, I am man enough to said I did say all that so what is your point again?

    But, like I always say that is my opinion. And you are only copying and pasting only the stuff that I already said thousand times? And I am not saying I never said that. LIke I said what is your point???

    You see you can’t burn me…

    Max June 1, 2010 at 7:23 am #

    I never said I don’t have faith in Rose. I think he is amazing but he himself is asking for these star players and in interviews he describes it as a dream to play with the top players in the league.

    DJ June 1, 2010 at 7:25 am #

    I am admitting it and I still see it like that, with a couple of my other ideas that I have. Like I said what is your point Max? I am not denying it? That is just my strong opinion as a Bulls Fan of what I think they should do to improve their team.

    Max June 1, 2010 at 7:27 am #

    Who the fuck says burn anymore. I’m not trying to do that. I’m pointing out how big a liar you are. You say stuff without remembering all the stupid shit you talked before. I’m done with you kid. You make my points for with your stupidity and I am sure you will just keep on doing it.

    Go Bulls!!

    Max June 1, 2010 at 7:29 am #

    AND I NEVER SAID ANY SUPERSTAR WILL NOT COME TO CHICAGO THIS SUMMER STUPID! I only said Lebron James or D. Wade will probably not come to Chicago. YOU see, HEre is another example of you changing my words around like you always do like a lil bitch. lol

    How sad Max….. HOw sad you are………………………………………………….

    Comment by Dj — June 1, 2010 @ 6:56 am

    Your not even smart enough to remember 5 post back.

    DJ June 1, 2010 at 7:30 am #

    Who knows, maybe someday Rose will play along side with a great top player in this league. Remember he is still young and he could always change his mind on who he would love to play.

    DJ June 1, 2010 at 7:33 am #

    What am I lying about now MAX??? you never found a comment of me saying something totally different. Like I said what is you point??? Ever comment that you posted of me I am admitting it that I said that what is your point kid???

    DJ June 1, 2010 at 7:34 am #


    DJ June 1, 2010 at 7:40 am #

    I even repeated myself in most of my comments but, in a different ways. Once again what is your point? that I am a lier, how if I am admitting it and I am not denying of what I said in the past and present. You see Max I think your the one that is losing it buddy.

    Like I said, you can’t burn me and I still see you as a changing words around lil B**ch lol

    Please grow-up kid…

    DJ June 1, 2010 at 7:44 am #

    And for this comment:

    AND I NEVER SAID ANY SUPERSTAR WILL NOT COME TO CHICAGO THIS SUMMER STUPID! I only said Lebron James or D. Wade will probably not come to Chicago. YOU see, HEre is another example of you changing my words around like you always do like a lil bitch. lol

    How sad Max….. HOw sad you are………………………………………………….

    Yes I said that in the past and I was referring to: most likely these top free-agent player probably won’t come to Chicago. I was just mad at that time and that is why I said they won’t come to Chicago.

    What is your point Max really?

    DJ June 1, 2010 at 7:48 am #

    Were we or were we not fight and leaving those long comment back then? Yes and that is why I said those strong statement words. And I still feel the same way upon what I said but, in a positive way.

    Trm3 June 1, 2010 at 10:11 am #

    It’s a no win situation Max, u try to ignore it and then it says something so stupid that u just have to respond. Or he just repeats himself over and over and over and gets old.

    BULL4EVER June 1, 2010 at 1:17 pm #

    It’s not at all a guarantee that LeBron won’t sign with the Bulls because there is a great great chance that he will sign with the Bulls if he leaves Cleveland because the Bulls are his No.1 target besides Cleveland.And another thing I can guarantee LeBron will be in a Bulls uniform if he leaves Cleveland,not to mention Bosh will follow suit in the windy city with Lebron.Just one of these two scenarios will take place,either LeBron will be in a Bulls uniform or a Cavaliers uniform.GO BULLS.

    Luke June 1, 2010 at 10:37 pm #

    well, this thread is ruined. Hope you guys dont carry this shit on to another article on here.

    Trm3 June 2, 2010 at 3:47 am #

    Luke, DJ carries this in every thread…I’m sure by now he’s heard LeBron say “Cavs have an edge” so we’ll hear about that now..

    Luke June 2, 2010 at 5:25 am #

    Yeah. I wish there was someway we could filter him out. I am pretty sure of the 75 comments, 8 were his idiotic statements and 27 were his corrections for his own grammar mistakes my 2nd grader neighbor doesn’t make.

    reggie June 2, 2010 at 6:32 pm #

    wow let me say this right out what if Wade LBJ or bosh who is not high on my list for max deal does not come to chicago what do they do next I dont want them just to spend the money and over pay a player I think like I have heard the bulls should not waste alot of time trying to sign any of them D Rose is stud and beast on the court if they want to come let them if not the bulls should sign players that want to play that fit with our team simple superstars want to be the man here they will have to share the light with Rose no questions asked there so let me hear what your best plan for the bulls is cause time is ticking July 1 will be here soon Peace

    Max June 2, 2010 at 11:09 pm #

    Wow let me say this right out. What if Wade LBJ or bosh (who is not high on my list for max deals) does not come to Chicago? What do they do next? I don’t want them just to spend the money, and over pay a player. I think, like I have heard, the bulls should not waste a lot of time trying to sign any of them.

    D Rose is stud and beast on the court, if they want to come let them, if not the bulls should sign players that want to play. Those that fit with our team.

    It’s simple, superstars want to be the man. Here they will have to share the light with Rose, no questions asked. So let me hear what your best plan for the bulls is? Time is ticking, July 1 will be here soon. Peace.

    Sorry Reggie man, but I had to edit your post on the fly. I felt bad for anyone else that had to read it. If I made mistakes Luke then feel free to bag on me as well.

    reggie June 3, 2010 at 3:45 pm #

    thanks Max Nice Job I get caught up in my writting and it just flows without the quotations all in right place but thxs again

    Steve June 3, 2010 at 10:41 pm #

    Maybe, Dwade feels a little betrayed about the bulls going after lebron and not him.A home town guy like that . And chicago doesn’t even look his way. Kind of a slap in the face.

    DJ June 4, 2010 at 5:48 am #

    Sorry what was that again Max? I mean Trm3? lol, dude for real get a life! if anyone here is repeating himself a lot of times, it is you Max with all your made up account names of different people like: Trm3, Luke and others. Dude, I know it is you so quit it! (especially when you are only talking shit to me with all your made up people.)

    Anyways I kind of agree with reggie, you people, I mean Max lol think for some reason that Lebron, Wade or Bosh with come to Chicago for sure at 95% percent.

    When other fans out their like myself, have a totally different opinion and don’t see it like that. Sure it would be nice to get 1 of those top guys but, in real life lets face the fact that it is not going to be a piece of cake! You and I have no idea what is in Lebron, Wade or Bosh minds. So they can choose who ever they want, not just the Bulls. (Meaning: teams with more money, youth, all around solid players or their hometowns.)

    And last time I check BULL4EVER, Chicago is not anymore in the race with Cleveland for Lebron, also the Knicks, the Nets, the Clipper and other teams are making some noise for trying to sign Lebron this summer. In other words, it is not going to be easy like most of you guys think it is MAX! (sorry for repeating myself, I am just trying to turn on a lil light switch on that empty head of your. lol)

    Anyways, I am done with you Max grow-up kid! Their is no reasoning with you. (it’s like talking to a empty wall lol)

    Max power June 4, 2010 at 5:56 am #

    Damn! you guys won’t quit DJ and Max lol

    I am sorry Max but, I kind of see what DJ point of view is and I agree with him also. It is not going to be that easy this summer to get a top free-agent player like Lebron or Wade. Even if we have the best team on paper other they mate not see that, like we do.

    Max power June 4, 2010 at 5:57 am #

    *other players mate not see that, like we do.

    andres Lopez June 4, 2010 at 5:58 am #

    What did I miss?

    One love, to my guy Mike lol


    mike killer June 4, 2010 at 6:02 am #

    Man I would love to have Lebron come to Chicago and play in a Bull uniform more then Wade but, I have a feeling that the Bulls GM’s will F*** it up like always lol

    In other words hopefully the Bulls sign some solid semi-star players this summer.

    Go Bulls!!!


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