Kirk Hinrich and Tyrus Thomas for Chris Bosh?

Stormin’ Norman Disciple of Not Qualified to Comment let us know about the latest Kirk Hinrich trade rumor as reported by Boers and Bernstein:

“Try this on for size, as something that is percolating. And as of now, this is all I can tell you. I’m not going to tell you this is a done deal, or that it’s even close, but as far as something that is out there as a possibility. Hinrich, Tyrus Thomas, and at least one pick to the Toronto Raptors for Chris Bosh.”

Eh…it sounds to me like Boers and Bernstein were scrounging around for something to talk about. Again, maybe I’m just completely desensitized to Kirk Hinrich trade rumors, but the Raptors already have six guards on their roster and a guard-forward in Antoine Wright. Unless they can sucker some team into taking Jose Calderon off their hands – which is unlikely, since he has three years and $30 million left on his contract – why would they want to take on Hinrich and his contract ($17 million for the next two seasons)?

It just doesn’t make sense to me. From the Raptors’ perspective.

From the Bulls’ standpoint, it makes amazing sense. If they could land Bosh while getting Hinrich’s and Thomas’ deals off the books, that would leave them with enough cash to re-sign Bosh and one or more top-notch free agents next summer. But ridiculously one-sided trades don’t usually happen in the NBA unless the team getting shafted will reap the benefit of a reduced payroll. That wouldn’t happen for the Raptors…so I can’t see this deal ever going through. Unless I’m missing something.

That said, this rumor could be a sign that negotiations for Bosh are revving up. Although the Raptors have been streaking lately — winning seven of their last eight games — so would Toronto management want to mess with a hot team?

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43 Responses to Kirk Hinrich and Tyrus Thomas for Chris Bosh?

  1. sbrother@mountaincable.net'
    brothersteve January 7, 2010 at 5:37 pm #

    Why does every team’s (“fans/media”) believe they can pawn off their bad contracts and get someone else’s All-Star?

    Sure some teams have weak ownership and are losing money but Toronto’s MLSE is owned by a huge pension fund and makes massive profits each year. No need to dump salaries here.

    If the Bulls wanted to trade for Bosh, and anything is possible, they’d have to be offering something the Raptors would actually want. Something that would leave this year’s playoff run intact.

    Deng, Noah & Thomas approximately equal Bosh in talent and salary. But I doubt the Bulls are that desperate (Yet!).

  2. Bass January 7, 2010 at 6:26 pm #

    This is the deal Ive been waiting to hear, which is why I ultimately dont think its going to happen. But to hear Hinrich name back in trade talks is still good to read. If the Bulls are able to unload Hinrich contracts for expiring contracts they will have enough money for free agency to sign Bosh and Joe Johnson, but if we are able to trade for Bosh with Hinrich included in the deal would kill two birds with one stone. This trade would most certainly put the Bulls in play for a championship run for a long time to come if we would be able to retain Chris Bosh and then sign Joe Johnson or Dwayne Wade. From one Chicago Bull’s fan to all others, Im praying this happpens.

    DA BULLS!!!!!!!!!!!

  3. jcott@aol.com'
    reef January 7, 2010 at 7:18 pm #

    Bulls front office please make this happen. Then afterwards pick up a decent free-agent point guard for cheap to back up Rose after Hinrich’s departure. That should keep us alive until we pick up Dwayne Wade or Joe Johnson this summer. Any top shooting guard would be dumb to not want to come to Chicago and play along with Rose,Deng,Noah, and possibly Bosh if the deal goes through. Wade was already hoping Rose came to Miami during the draft. If he continues to drop 40pts inlosing efforts Wade to Chicag would be more of a possibility if u add in this deal. Make it happen Bulls!

  4. gregory.frankson@hrsdc-rhdcc.gc.ca'
    dudeinottawa January 7, 2010 at 7:59 pm #

    Utterly ridiculous. Absolutely no way this trade ever gets made. If the Raptors trade Chris Bosh, why would the best player coming back to Toronto be a guard? Calderon, Jack, Belinelli, Banks, DeRozan and Weems means the Raptors are already a guard-heavy team. They have no need *whatsoever* for Hinrich. Colangelo may make trades that end up not working out, but he doesn’t make trades that make absolutely no sense either. Bulls fans — if you want Bosh, you’ll have to sign him in the offseason. Rebuilding a championship squad is never simple, easy or straightforward!

  5. footballlife1600@aim.com'
    Joe January 7, 2010 at 8:40 pm #

    The Bulls will make this happen…some how

  6. sean@rmeg.biz'
    Pharaoh January 7, 2010 at 8:48 pm #

    As much as I would love to see Bosh in a Bulls uniform, it ain’t happening. Not this season at least. Realistically speaking, there is no way the Raptors would a)want another 6’3″ guard to find playing time for and b)want to deal with Hinrich’s $17mil owed for the next 2 seasons.

    Nice try, but no cigar.

  7. rchs24jg@yahoo.com'
    letsgobulls_24 January 7, 2010 at 10:35 pm #

    To all the naysayers- perhaps Toronto is forming another deal to rid them of some of their guards. If they unload some of their guards then there might be room for Hinrich.

  8. svidahl@silverstar.com'
    Sports Llama January 7, 2010 at 11:55 pm #

    I agree that there might be another deal to get rid of guards, but why not address what has been mentioned on the other side of the coin. I.E., trade something of value. In the years Luol has been with Chicago, he’s never been the mismatch problem that his size and skill set seems to suggest he is. Don’t get me wrong, I like Deng, but if we could trade Deng, Thomas and a pick for Bosh, that’s a deal you have to make. I’d throw James Johnson in there too if he’s not earning the minutes that he should. For Chicago that means putting Rose, Salmons/Pargo, Taj/Salmons, Bosh and Noah out there. Can Gibson play the 3? I don’t know, this is, after all, a fantasy comment. I’d love Bosh, and I’m willing to trade anyone except Rose and Noah to get him quite frankly.

  9. felipeagarcia87@hotmail.com'
    felipe garcia January 8, 2010 at 5:05 am #

    I also agree with Matt and brothersteve comments. I also don’t think that the Toronto Raptors would want to take Kirk Hinrich in this deal. Just like you people mention this already “they have to many guards.” Tyrus Thomas in the other hand makes perfect sense along with Noah and Deng to make this deal happen. Which is a hell no deal! lol. People lets just face the fact that D. Wade is staying in Miami next season and he is not coming to Chicago. Maybe when he is close of retiring but, not any time sooner. As for Chris Bosh, I also don’t think he would want to come to Chicago when he can go to a nice tropical area in South Bench Miami with his formal USA teammate D. Wade. That being said, I have an idea that can help the Bulls improve their roster with good solid players. Step 1: the Bulls should make a trade deal with New York for Al Harrington by giving up Tyrus Thomas and Jerome James. By adding Al Harrington the Bulls will have another good scorer that can hit big shoots in late games, space the floor and plays solid Defense 1 on 1. Step 2: the Bulls should make a trade deal with Sacramento for Kevin Martin and Beno Udrih by giving up Kirk Hinrich, John Salmons and the Bulls 1st or 2nd draft pick to sweeten the deal. By making this trade the Bulls will get in return a young, cheeper, taller shooting guard machine like Kevin Martin, that can put up big numbers at will. With Beno Udrih he will be a perfect backup point guard to D. Rose and he is a lil bit younger then Hinrich. Plus Hinrich is more of a starter then a backup point guard. Beside if these trade deals happen, it will help both sides. New York will get an explosive, young, dunker that can block shots like Tyrus Thomas. Sacramento will get in return an experience point guard who will help Tyreke Evans get better with a good bench backup shooting guard or small forward player like John Salmons to help them out and to add more youth to their roster when draft night comes along.

  10. felipeagarcia87@hotmail.com'
    felipe garcia January 8, 2010 at 5:19 am #

    And lets not forget people, if things don’t work out with Harrington the Bulls have the option to sign him back or not and keep his 9 million dollar contract along with Brad Miller Pargo, Hunter and Gray contracts to sign David Lee and other decent players to their roster for the season looking like this:
    2010-2011 Starters:
    PG: D. Rose
    SG: K. Martin
    SF: L. Deng
    PF: D. Lee
    C: J. Noah
    Bench:
    Taj Gibson
    James Johnson
    Beno Udril
    & others

  11. campbellmadness@yahoo.com'
    dcampbell January 8, 2010 at 5:48 am #

    hey felipe, why would teams accept back players they just gave us. Jerome james to New York, salmons back to sacremento, they got ride of them for a reason, they can’t afford them or don’t want them. all this trade talks and scenearios are maddening. I really doubt they’ll do anything during the season.

  12. rob-GSwarriors January 8, 2010 at 7:40 am #

    I believe this trade can get done only if a thrid team is involved. Mainly a desperate near playoff bound team eager to make a move before the deadline. A lot teams are going to pass considering the markee names that potentially be available. We’ll see

  13. jallenforex@yahoo.com'
    Jay January 8, 2010 at 2:27 pm #

    Ok, the Bulls need to trade Vinny Del Negro for a box of yogurt pretzels and find a real coach. The Bulls finally get on track with Tyrus Thomas coming back so what does the coach do? Barely play him for the last two games. Here’s the deal. Stats don’t lie. Tyrus Thomas has a better P.E.R., more points per 48, more rebounds per 48 (over 1 per), waaaay more blocks per 48, less fouls per 48, better turnover to assist ratio per 48, makes more hustle plays, and is much more a factor than Taj Gibson is at this point. The reality is with Tyrus Thomas playing closer to 38 minutes per game instead of 23, Rose needs a couple more minutes per game and go with your most talented players to form some continuity. Vinny with his “man crush” on Taj, simply deserves his walking papers if he can’t figure out Tyrus is way better than Taj right now.

  14. wallywojo@gmail.com'
    wallywojo January 8, 2010 at 3:21 pm #

    This sounds like the kind of trade a meatball sports fan would make up so I was surprised to hear BnB talking about it. If a fan would have called with that trade idea they would have blasted them so it either must have been legitimate or like you said looking for something to talk about. Why not just do an Ask Rusty segment?

  15. Mike January 8, 2010 at 3:22 pm #

    Yeah Felipe, let’s trade for Kevin Martin a guy that hasn’t played a full season in 2 or 3 years. Your trade scenario is impossible, and it does not improve the Bulls. Al Harrington is not a go to scorer that is going to make big shots. He’s a good scorer, but when has he ever been the last shot guy for his team?

    Even if the Bulls can’t get Wade, Lebron, or Bosh, there are plenty of other good players like David Lee and Manu Ginobli. D Rose is going to be a superstar so if they don’t have one, at least get him some complimentary players that can shoot 3s or score in the paint.

    Oh, and why doesn’t anyone mention Yao Ming or Kobe for the 2010 Free Agent craze? If the Lakers lose the championship, will he stay? They face losing a lot of players this year and next year.

  16. chris.price3@gmail.com'
    Chris January 8, 2010 at 4:02 pm #

    Utterly ridiculous. What we could use, on the other hand, is a player like Joakim Noah. Something like Noah-Gibson-cap ballast and a couple of picks would be realistic.

    Nobody wants Tyrus Thomas, the Bulls barely want him.

  17. felipeagarcia87@hotmail.com'
    felipe garcia January 9, 2010 at 6:33 am #

    You guys are crazy dcampbell & gay Mike? 1st of all ‘dcampbell’ NEW YORK & Sacramento ARE NOT JUST GETTING BACK PLAYERS THAT THEY had already. For example: New York has never had Tyrus Thomas before and lets not forget that Jerome James contract is up this season so they can keep his money. As for Sacramento they never had KIRK HINRICH before and lets not also forget that John Salmons has the option to resign with the team or not and if he doesn’t resign with Sacramento they can keep his money and they are also getting a 1st or 2nd draft pick from the Bulls to sweeten the deal so they can add another young solid player to their roster. As for you ‘Mike’ you are forgetting that Kevin Martin is only 26 year old, he still young, He is explosive like Joe Johnson and he has a lot of mileage left on him unlike your buddys: Manu Ginobli, Yao Ming and Kobe. I do agree with you about Kevin Martin not playing a full season yet but, this is his first time he has been out for a long time and when he does get back close to 100% he is still is very effect on offense and defense. Listen you guys, all I am doing is just throwing out some good ideas to help the Bulls save some money with adding cheaper solid player like: Martin, Harrington, Beno Udril & David Lee eventually to their rosters next season. We all know that the Bull are not signing any top Super star this year like: Joe Johnson, D. Wade, Chris Bosh and other. O and last time I checked ‘Mike’ Al Harrigton has hit some big shots in late game during his career when he played with ATL, Golden State and with NY. So your telling me ‘Mike’ that you would rather keep Tyrus Thomas and Jerome James then to get a good scorer like Al Harrington that can hit big 3 point shots, space the floor and his 9 million dollar contract is coming off the books this year if thing don’t work with him and the Bulls. Wow and I thought you were actually smart Mike. lol (no comments)

  18. felipeagarcia87@hotmail.com'
    felipe garcia January 9, 2010 at 6:39 am #

    o0o and we all Know Kobe and Yao Ming are not going anywhere along with D. Wade and King James maybe.

  19. sportytomboy1212@aim.com'
    DJ January 9, 2010 at 7:10 am #

    Yah Felipe is right, that is not a stupid idea? I kind of like the idea of getting Al Harrington in return for Tyrus Thomas & Jerome James. Come people Al Harrington is averaging 18 ppg, 6 rpg, along with 1 spg while Tyrus Thomas is averaging: 10 ppg, 6-7 rpg along with 1 spg i with 1 blk per game. Plus they already have Taj Gibson to replace his defensive presents. And for the Kevin Martin and Beno Udril trade that is also not a bad idea as well, by getting rid of Hinrich contact for a cheep and better backup point guard like Udril and to add an explosive shooter that can draw double teams like Kevin Martin beside they are both still young and like felipe mention this already they both have a lot of millage let on them to play. Unlike Ben Wallace when the Bulls sign him to a long term deal and now Brad Miller is starting to show those signs of age-ing. lol

  20. mr.heath_lewis0605@hotmail.com'
    Lewnilli January 9, 2010 at 7:41 am #

    I can see this trade happening some time down the line, but not now. I can’t fathom a scenario in which the Raptors would trade Chris Bosh right now. They have been doing a nice job as of late, so a trade right now is unlikely. If the Raptors begin to falter some time down the road, I can see the Bulls and a third party team. Another team would have to be included in this trade because the Raptors most definitely would not want another guard (Kirk Hinrich) added to their back court. I really hope this trade happens some time soon because a starting line-up consisting of Derrick Rose, Chris Bosh, Luol Deng, John Salmons, and Joakim Noah sounds formidable, if not good to me, but then again what do I know I’m just a Bulls fan that was a kid in the glory days that wants to see some present glory days. Da Bulls!!!

  21. Bass January 10, 2010 at 3:00 pm #

    Hey here is a trade scenario. The Bulls have been in three trade rumors dealing with the Knicks, Washington, and Toronto. The last two teams may be able to get together and with the Bulls and do a three team trade. Sending Antwan Jamison and Tyrus Thomas to Toronto, Kirk Hinrich and a pick to Washington, and Chris Bosh to Chicago. Hey its a possibility, especially since the Bulls have been in communication with both teams already. Whatever the Bulls do Im hoping, before the deadline is up, they find some expiring contracts for Kirk Hinrich, which will free up more money to sign two top of the line free agents. Chris Bosh and Joe Johnson or Dwanye Wade.

    Da Bulls!!!!!!!!!!

  22. Bass January 10, 2010 at 3:01 pm #

    Hey here is a trade scenario. The Bulls have been in three trade rumors dealing with the Knicks, Washington, and Toronto. The last two teams may be able to get together with the Bulls and do a three team trade. Sending Antwan Jamison and Tyrus Thomas to Toronto, Kirk Hinrich and a pick to Washington, and Chris Bosh to Chicago. Hey its a possibility, especially since the Bulls have been in communication with both teams already. Whatever the Bulls do Im hoping, before the deadline is up, they find some expiring contracts for Kirk Hinrich, which will free up more money to sign two top of the line free agents. Chris Bosh and Joe Johnson or Dwanye Wade.

    Da Bulls!!!!!!!!!!

  23. Mike January 11, 2010 at 2:43 am #

    Felipe, I’m not going to even bother picking apart your post because you have no idea what you’re talking about.

  24. aha.ins@live.com'
    bill thomas January 11, 2010 at 5:46 am #

    I Love the move Bass but, the Wizards are not that stupid to give up Antwan Jamison for no Super Star player in return and if they do get a draft pick, it has to be a top 1-5 pick or this deal won’t work. The only teams that would love for this trade to happen is Chicago and Toronto. Plus I would rather keep Kirk Hinrich and give up John Salmons with Tyrus Thomas in the deal.

  25. Bass January 11, 2010 at 4:10 pm #

    Sending Antwan Jamison and Tyrus Thomas to Toronto, Kirk Hinrich and a pick to Washington, and Chris Bosh to Chicago……..Toronto can even include the expiring contract of Amir Johnson to maybe sweeting the deal but Antwan Jamison is not that great of a player compared to Chris Bosh, he’s a undersized PF, and with the Arenas situation, the Wizards would be happy to get a solid point guard in Kirk Hinrich and a pick to start rebuilding. Either or, the Bulls need to get rid of Kirk and his contract. He is not our future point guard or shooting guard, and he is overpaid to be a back up point guard. Kirk gots to go, it could be for no talent, as long as we trade him for expiring contracts to have more money at the end of the year to sign two top of the line free agents. Chris Bosh and Joe Johnson or Dwanye Wade. Make it happen!!!!

    Da Bulls!!!!!!!!

  26. rodwormbly@hotmail.com'
    rod January 11, 2010 at 5:41 pm #

    d.rose wade deng bosh noah oooohhh letz do it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:))))

  27. loganjimmy@hotmail.com'
    DJ FATMACK January 11, 2010 at 6:25 pm #

    I DONT KNOW WHY EVERYONE IS SO STUCK ON CHRIS BOSH AS IF HE IS THE BEST THE BULLS COULD DO. TO MEAN HE IS A BIT SOFT ON DEFENSE. OFFENSIVELY HE’S GOOD, BUT SO IS AMARE AND BOOZER. PLUS IF THE BULL ALWAYS SAYING THEY WANT SOMEBODY TO “RUN” WITH ROSE WHY ARE THEY LOOKING FOR SOME ONE TO BE A POST PRESENCE, DUMMIES YOU GAVE AWAY OUR POST PRESENCE “EDDY CURRY 19 PPG” AND TYRUS IS GONNA BE A STAR EVERYONE FFORGETS HE’S JUST 23. AND HE HAS NOT HELP SINCE BEING WITH THE BULLS, HE HAS HAD 2 EX POINT GAURD COACHES AND NO VETERAN BIG MAN TO IMPROVE AND LEARN FROM. EVERY SMART FRANCHISE GETS SOMEONE FOR THERE KEY PLAYERS. DWIGHT HOWARD – PATRICK EWING, ROSE- LINDSEY HUNTER, KOBE -MAGIC & EDDIE JONES. BUT OTHER THAN THAT. IF YOU GET RID OF SALMONS, TYRUS. HINRICH. AND LEBRON STAYS IN CLEVELAND, WADE GOES TO NY, AND JOE JOHNSON GOES TO MIAMI WITH BOSH, WHATS OUR MOVE THEN? NOTHING JUST LIKE THE OLYMPICS OH MAYBE WE CAN GET KWAME BROWN, KYLE KOVER, AND TJ FORD. LOTTERY HERE WE COME AGAIN.

  28. mrgarcia87@yahoo.com'
    mike killer January 12, 2010 at 5:15 am #

    What are talking about DJ FATMACK? D. WAde to NY?, Joe Johnson to Miami? WHAT? your comments make no sense. 1st all Chris Bosh is still young like Tyrus Thomas, that is why the Bulls would love to bring him to Chicago and Chris Bosh can run with Derrick Rose. Trust me, haven’t you been paying any attention of how Toronto is playing? Hint: they play a fast peace with a lot high scoring games. And so what if Tyrus Thomas is still young, Chris Bosh was also young when he started out in the NBA and in 2-3 years he already became an All Star Player and he was also a 4th round pick like Tyrus Thomas. My question to you DJ FATMACK why can’t Tyrus Thomas become an All Star player yet? He already has 4 years of league experience. Why can’t he reach that new super star level yet? If Bosh was able to do it why can’t he do it?

  29. felipeagarcia87@hotmail.com'
    felipe garcia January 12, 2010 at 5:37 am #

    Mike, the only reason why you can’t take apart my comments is because I made a good statement and your the one that does not know anything about basketball. You said you would rather make a trade for Manu Ginobli over Kevin Martin? when he is already old, he has a bigger contract and he is also a type of guy that is never health throughout the season as well.

  30. Bass January 12, 2010 at 5:44 am #

    Wow, just stop felipe, go and do some more research and get back at Mike, you can do it. (Hint) Ginobli will be a free agent at the end of the year.

  31. arellano.rick@gmail.com'
    Splick January 12, 2010 at 11:02 am #

    Deng, Tyrus, and a 1st round pick sounds more realistic in a trade for Bosh. But the only way Toronto pulls the trigger is if they are sure Bosh won’t re-sign with the team.
    In order to sign 2 top free agents (D.Wade/J.Johnson, C.Bosh/A.Stoudamire/C.Boozer), the Bulls will need to unload Hinrich, Deng, and possibly another non-expiring contract in order to stay below the luxury tax next year. There’s no way Reinsdorf pays the luxury tax. Personally, I don’t think Gar Foreman or John Paxson know what they’re doing.
    Best starting line-up scenario if Hinrich and Deng are gone and we sign 2 free agents…Rose, Joe Johnson, Salmons, Bosh, and Noah. Realisticly, no chance.
    Paxson has always had a hard-on for Al Harrington, so felipe’s comments unfortunately make more sense than these dream line-ups everyone else is hoping for.

  32. arellano.rick@gmail.com'
    Splick January 12, 2010 at 11:13 am #

    Ultimately, the Bulls need 2 players in their starting 5 that other teams will need to double team. If Rose stays healthy and keeps progressing, he’s one. The second will need to be addressed by trade or free agency. No one else on our current roster is feared by other teams.

  33. Bass January 12, 2010 at 1:56 pm #

    Splick do your homework before you come shooting holes in my scenario. The Bulls have expring contracts coming off the books at the end of the year two in particular are B.Miller and J.James. If the Bulls are sucessful with moving Hinrich for expiring contracts, trading Tyrus Thomas at the same time, and giving up their first round draft pick, will free up more money to sign a player to a max deal and a second player to almost near a max deal which I think Joe Johnson would take for a chance to come closer to a championship team with the line up of D.Rose, J.Johnson, L.Deng, C.Bosh, and J.Noah.

    And for the record K.Martin is signed for another 4 yrs, Manu Ginobli contract ends this year, so ultimately it would be smater to trade for his expiring contract to free up more money for the free agency.

  34. Bass January 12, 2010 at 2:13 pm #

    Hey here is a little help Splick. A list of expring contracts from off the Bulls team.

    B.Miller 12,250,000
    J.James 6,600,000
    A.Gray 1,000,497
    J.Pargo 1,990,000
    L.Hunter 825,497

    get rid of Kirk for expiring contracts another 9,500,000

    Let T.Thomas go antoher 4,748,598

    If J.Salmons ops out thats another 6,429,150

  35. Michael Jordan January 12, 2010 at 8:17 pm #

    lol @ signin bosh AND wade..keep dreamin, wade and king james will win a championship together next year

  36. felipeagarcia87@hotmail.com'
    felipe garcia January 13, 2010 at 3:20 am #

    What are you talking about Bass? who cares if Ginobli will be a free agent next year. What so good about having so much money if the Bulls won’t be able to sign a top free agent player like Bosh, Wade or Joe Johnson this year. The Bulls will probably sign another older Ben Wallace type of player with all that money they have. At least with the trade for Kevin Martin it is not a stupid move because he is still young, he is a fantastic score which the Bulls are missing and he has a lot of millage left on him unlike Ginobli. Trust me, he will be a perfect fit in Chicago HINT: he is the cheaper version of Joe Johnson and D. Wade. o0o and like your idea is any good Bass, you should do your research also. You said: Antwan Jamison and Tyrus Thomas to Toronto, Kirk Hinrich and a pick to Washington, and Chris Bosh to Chicago? yah like that will happen. 1st of all the Washington Wizard are not that stupid by giving up their star player for No star player in return just like bill Thomas told you this already and I totally agree with him. Try another move but, your almost their.

  37. felipeagarcia87@hotmail.com'
    felipe garcia January 13, 2010 at 3:40 am #

    The Bulls real lineup should look like this, if they hopefully make the move I suggested. Tyrus Thomas and Jerome James for Al Harrington, then when he becomes a free agent they should sign David Lee with his money. Then Kirk Hinrich, John Salmons and the Bulls 1st or 2nd round draft pick to Sacramento for my guy Kevin Martin and Beno Udrih.

    Finally this is how the Bulls realistic starting lineup should look like for 2010-2011:
    PG: D. Rose
    SG: Kevin Martin
    SF: L. Deng
    PF: David Lee
    C: J. Noah
    Bench
    Taj Gibson
    James Johnson
    and some other free agent players

    Don’t forget Bass, the Bulls still have to sign D. Rose and J. Noah back with more money in order to keep them this year.

  38. felipeagarcia87@hotmail.com'
    felipe garcia January 13, 2010 at 3:50 am #

    o0o and Beno Udrih as the backup point guard for Derrick Rose

  39. sportytomboy1212@aim.com'
    dj January 13, 2010 at 4:15 am #

    Yah, I totally agree with that Felipe guy, the chances of the Bulls landing a top super star player like: Wade, Bosh or Joe Johnson are 10-40% chances. I also think that the Wizard are not that dumb to give up Antwan Jamison for no super star player in return. If this move works, the Wizard will be the one asking for Chris Bosh in exchange to give up Antwan Jamison. Plus the move for Kevin Martin, Al Harrington and Beno Udrih is not a bad idea. I can see the Bulls making this deal. They will get cheaper solid players in return, instead of paying for a big money guy like: Bosh, Wade or Joe Johnson because you know they will be asking for a contract close to 20 million dollars a year like Shaq, T-Mac and Kobe got.

  40. Bass January 13, 2010 at 4:43 am #

    Felipe Garcia really need to do his homework for several reasons. First reason being that D.Rose and J.Noah are signed till 2011.

    Second when the time comes the most they both can see if they are signed to a max deal are 13,000,000 a year since they are under 6yrs played in the league, look it up Felipe. Ultimately Jerry Reinsdorf said that he is willing to go over the salary cap if the team was considered championship contenders. Which brings me to this point do you really think we can win with the starting line up of your scenario. Please!!!! And to retain that line up, you have posted, we will be over the salary cap after signing J.Noah and D.Rose in 2011.
    Want happen, not a chance!

    Third, right now the Wizards and the Cavs are rumored to possibly swap of Antwoine Jamison for Zydrunas Ilgauskas. Last time I check Zydrunas Ilgauskas isnt a star player, not close. Only thing valuable about Big Z is his expiring contract, but the Cavs are still hesitant cause Jamison doesnt play the defense needed to win championships, meaning Antwoine aint that great of a player! Star player, last time i check you had to play in the All Stars to be consider a Star player and he aint doing that this year. A undersized PF is what he is, that can stretch the defense, but plays no defense.

    If we gave Washington Kirk Hinirich and a first round draft pick for them to release Jamison to Toronto I think is more than enough. And if that doesnt fit the bill, Toronto can give them a young prospect in Amir Johnson whose contract expires at the end of the year.
    Anyway its done, both scenarios work, input in the trade machine and they both are successful.

    And by the way your boy K.Martin’s contract inflates every year, nothing cheap about him! Believe nothing you hear and half of what you see, look it up. Holla

  41. felipeagarcia87@hotmail.com'
    felipe garcia January 13, 2010 at 7:33 am #

    Plus you said it yourself ‘Bass’ Here is a list of expring contracts from the Bulls team this year.

    B.Miller: 12,250,000
    J.James: 6,600,000
    A.Gray 1,000,497
    J.Pargo 1,990,000
    L.Hunter 825,497
    and If J.Salmons ops out thats another 6,429,150 and don’t forget they also have some save money for not signing back Ben Gordan this year, so that already a lot of money save up for this coming summer. Meaning they really don’t need Ginobli money to be another addiction like I said before.

  42. Bass January 13, 2010 at 3:22 pm #

    This is addressed to DJ a max deal consist of 16,224,600 a year, thats the highest a person can get on a max deal with less than 10 years of experience in the NBA. Dont take my word for it, look it up.

    Felipe if i had a choice to aquire Ginolbi over Kevin Martin for Hinrich and Thomas being involved i would do it, not saying thats direction i would prefer to go in, but if i had to choose one or the other it would be Ginolbi. Here’s why Ginolbi contract is up this year freeing money up to be able to sign two top of the line free agents (Bosh and J.Johnson). On the other hand K.Martin contract inflates every year. Putting us futher and further pass the the salary cap.

    Also for the record it has been reported that bosh would like to head to Chicago, so our chances of signing a sold free agent is very good, especially if we have money to spend.

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