Now that the Bulls have backup guard insurance in the form of Jannero Pargo, Kirk Hinrich might have become more expendable than ever. And when I say “Kirk Hinrich,” I really mean “the bloated contract that Bulls management desperately wants to get rid of.” Let the trade rumors begin!
ESPN.com’s Marc Stein reports: “Another major multi-team trade might be looming in the NBA with the Portland Trail Blazers, Utah Jazz and Chicago Bulls having discussed a deal that would be headlined by Carlos Boozer and Kirk Hinrich, according to NBA front-office sources. Sources stressed to ESPN.com that no deal was imminent Thursday and that both Portland and Utah are still evaluating additional trade scenarios. But two sources with knowledge of the three-team proposal confirmed that there have been substantive talks aimed at landing Boozer in Chicago, Hinrich in Portland and Tyrus Thomas in Utah. A deal featuring those main components would deliver the elite low-post scorer that the Bulls have been chasing for years in Boozer while also positioning them to have significant salary-cap space for the summer of 2010 to court Chicago native Dwyane Wade or Chris Bosh in free agency, since Boozer is entering the final year of his contract.”
Wait, let me get this straight: The Bulls could bring in an actual, honest-to-goodness inside scoring threat and still end up with plenty of cap space for next summer’s free agent bonanza? Either there isn’t a downside to the proposed deal or I can’t see it.
(Okay, it would leave us a little thin in the “backcourt depth” department, but still…)
If this trade goes through, Boozer would be our 2010 acquisition, wave goodbye to Bosh or Wade. That being said, depending on the cap number, we may be able to get a serviceable veteran of some kind in 2010 still, or let Boozer walk and get aforementioned Bosh/Wade.
we should do this deal if we can boozer is what we been missing a low post presence i know if we get rid of tyrus thomas were going to miss his block shots but hes not really a good defender hes just a good blocker
but im going to miss kirk hinrich but if we can get boozer for tyrus thomas and someone like travis outlaw from portland were going to be up there with teams like the cavilers,celtics, and magics,
I’m pretty sure I’m all for this. Sign DeMarcus Nelson from the practice squad, start a lineup of Rose, Salmons, Deng, Boozer and Noah.
I’m down w/ it.
The only problem is: Boozer’s health could be an issue, and he has been a bit of a prima donna in his career. Boozer is from the coolest state in the Union, but his character seems to be somewhat questionable (just ask Cleveland or Utah). Plus you’re losing your best backcourt defender, so, win some lose some.
Still, I think this trade would make the Bulls better, but I’d miss Kirk, and there is potential that it could blow up in our face (that’s what she said- HOO-ah!).
Happy Friday!
Boozer is in a contract year he will play the hardest he has ever played this would be a good trade
Yeah, Boozer isn’t the most reliable player – in terms of health and season longevity. I know we just got Pargo, but for some reason I don’t understand how that makes Hinrich expendable – we’ll need another guard after this. Hinrich is the best defender we have at the guard position and plays his role perfectly. He can start or he can come off the bench, and when there are stretches were he doesn’t get so many minutes he doesn’t let that get in the way of the game and how he plays. I still think Tyrus can elevate his game too, he is super athletic and seems to be coming into form each season. Slowly, yes, but surely.
I understand the move for Boozer, but in reality he’s only going to be here for a year if the Bulls really go after a big ticket next season, won’t be able to have both. I’m not knocking Boozer, he’s a proven player – when he’s healthy, but I feel as if the Bulls are risking too much if Hinrich and Thomas goes.
Make the deal – still have the expiring contracts to trade or go after free agent(s).
its an easy and good trade
Bulls Get: Boozer bayless
Utah Get: Ty Thomas, Tim Thomas and Paul Millsap (by clearing cap space)
Portland Get: Hinrich
Thats a good trade for everyone
This deal makes perfect sense for us, we need a post scorer, and Boozer’s contract coming off the books allows us to make a run at some studs next summer (or resign him)…Something that I haven’t heard mentioned, as I agree we could use backcourt depth with out Kirk. Allen Iverson anyone? He would come for the Midlevel at one year and we could guarantee him 30 mpg. That’s better then going to Memphis…right?
Iverson?
We don’t need the Canswer here.
The bulls want Jerryd Bayless who I think in the long run would be an upgrade to both kirk hinrich and ben gordon.
i still dont understand how jerry sloan and tyrus thomas coincide . . . tyrus just doesnt seem like a sloan coachable kind of player
Just like I said b4, adding J. Pargo was a good move for the Bulls because he can be a backup guard to Salmon or Rose and he didn’t cost them that much money. Getting Carlos Boozer and losing Kirk & Thomas is really bad move! I don’t mind them losing Ty Thomas but losing Kirk is a bad move. Kirk Hinrich is a great player that the Bulls can not afford to lose. He can play at both ends on the floor and can guard big guys like Paul Pierce. If anything they should go after David Lee over Carlo Boozer. (because of his health issues) They should only trade these players: ty thomas, tim thomas and j james for good PF like David Lee!
Yeah, if Bayless were to come with then I might feel a bit better about the move, should it happen. Still a little skeptical about the return of Deng, if he’s not playing well and Salmons has to make the jump to the SF position and we do lose Hinrich and DON’T get Bayless then we’re short. I want to believe Deng is gonna come back “like a boss” but we just don’t know.
I don’t like the trade. Yes, Carlos Boozer would be a great post presence. But, what good is it to gain that and then lose a solid backcourt. I think this would put a lot more pressure on Salmons, who would be a HUUUGE peace of next season. He would be our only reliable guard next to Rose and would be the one spelling Deng when necessary. (And that’s assuming Deng will be healthy and effective). Yes, Miller, Thomas, and Noah can only do so much down low, but I honestly think Thomas and Noah are only going to get better.
Can we win NOW. Boozer is better than Ty Thomas is ever going to be but is still not the answer. Someone Please tell Thomas he is not now or ever will being the number 1 scoring option so stopping shooting the ball 15 times a game and stick to garbage dunks. Clean house Chicago because your current roster won’t even get into the playoffs next year with what other teams in the Eastern conference have done. Put Kirk, Ty Thomas, Jerome James, Tim Thomas, Brad Miller and any other over paid players that suck on the trading block for Stoudamire and Bosh. That should also free up some money and lure D Wade in 2010. Just think win next year and a line up in 2010 of Rose, Wade, Deng, Stoudamire & Bosh. Chicago could actually be a contender again instead of a pretender.
this would be a great deal. i mean we are not going anywhere with kikk and ty so why not deal them. I know boozer is injury prone but we really dont have a choice. Bosh, Wade, and LBJ are gonna stay with there teams……the bull should trade for boozer sign him long term and next year maybe get sharp shooter michael redd…so Lineup Noah,Boozer,Salmons,Redd,Rose..oh yeah get rid of deng or come of the bench
Kirk and Ty are to valuable to return just Boozer and we don’t need Outlaw. Bayless would be nice, so I’d do that one but I don’t think the Blazers will move him this early. They don’t want Kirk that bad. I hope they don’t start including Brad Miller in these discussions – I like his presence with the young bigs and I think he can be resigned next year for a reasonable price (hometown-sorta discount?). Does Deng somehow work in this? I’m not sure if he clears enough cap space for Utah to sign Millsap but it allows Ty to slide into the SF spot (where I think he fits better).
Yeah getting Stoudamire Bosh and Wade is SOOOOO plausible. Can I have some of that sick herb your smoking?
chicago should trade for boozer and then sign stackhouse to a one year leauge veterans minimum. that way we have a big guard who can score and defend, and still have money for 2010
Lets get realistic
I would like to know how you think Chicago’s current roster is going to compete. They may be able to back into the playoffs before they get bounced the first round again by Boston or Cleveland because news flash you are not going to win with out 3 or 4 superstars on the team. Chicago is a major market and has 0 superstars which is a disgrace. Rose is the only up and coming potential star on the team. Since it sounds like you spend more time smoking herb than watching basketball I will do the math for you and break it down. getting rid of Hinrich, Miller, Ty Thomas, Tim Thomas and James you free up 39.56 million of wasted money (not to mention the money they saved not resigning BG). If you don’t think that is plausible to use to bring in two superstars this year you are out of your mind. You could get two superstars this year for less than that, have money left and with the expiring 6.35 million of Salmons contract next year go after another superstar in 2010.
This trade is only worth it for the Bulls if they get Bayless, Outlaw, or Webster back from the Trailblazer.
Those five players will never add up to two superstars in a trade. And if we could get rid of those players as easily as you make it sound, why wouldn’t they have done it already.
We don’t need to GET RID of all 5 or even trade all 5! We only need to trade Hinrich and Tyrus since the others all expire!!! Deal them for Boozer and we get better AND gain cap flexibility!
i really don’t see know upside in deng get rid of him and that big contract
MAN KIRK IS OUR BEST DEFENDER ON THE TEAM AND ONE OF OUR BEST PLAYERS. HINRICH IS STILL YOUNG AND GROWING. HE CAN BE A STAR ALSO. I’M SORRY BUT WE NEED KIRK.
listen, if we do this deal we make it back to the playoffs. then we resign boozer for 3 o 5 five years in 2010. after all that is done we work during this year or next summer in getting rid of dengs big contract so we can get wade. lets face it salmons is a much better option at the 3 position if we court wade. i would love to see a rose, wade, salmons, boozer, noah five in 2010…
Hey Brian, the Bulls have a great core of young players. Everyone knows they need a low post presence but at what cost? Guys lets not screw up this mix by bringing in Carlos and giving up TT. Be patient the right player will come. BG was a huge lost. The Bulls keep grooming guys for other teams and then draft the same type of player they gave away. The fix here is not to be desperate, wait for the right deal. Carlos Boozer is not the answer remember it took Jordan and Scottie six years to gel. Tyrus, Noah, Rose, Deng, Salmons and Kirk are pieces that fit lets add to that with a big man. People look at other teams and see big time moves, well guest what… all the big moves that were made will make those teams older not so much better. Clevland, SA and Boston have all gotten older. I think the bulls will be fine. Even when you dump guys to free up cap space it proves to backfire. Stars want to play with stars and if the bulls continue to dump up and coming players what will attract big time vets? Remember when we were ready give up a starting five for Kobe, he stated he wouldn’t move because we had to empty the tank to get him. Chicago is still a playoff team, too much tweeking and you’re looking at 25-57 season. I would love to have boozer on the roster but not at the cost of losing key players Boozer haven’t proved to stay healty for a full season, just call him Mr. Glass. Trust me the only team Bulls need to be able to compete with is the Lakers because the East is all bull and no bite.