Wow looks like we could have gotten Mayo for a first round pick and a bag of chips they just sent him to Indiana For McRoberts and a first round pick. Wow….We should have been able to get him. I and some others I would assume are a bit confused why we did not land Mayo.
That trade did not happen because they the grizzlies did not beat the dead line. But even if, teams DO NOT want to help the Bulls because they want too much for too little, u mean josh mc roberts is a LOT better than J.Johnson and 2 first rd picks, please!!
Indiana gives josh mcroberts and a 1st for mayo? we couldn’t give up gibson or asik and a 1st for that? I understand the bulls like the big men off the bench but give me a break. Both are very talented but they are not future all stars. I cannot believe the bulls were so stubborn that they couldn’t fit gibson in the deal.
And charlotte just gave away Gerald Wallace for Joel Prizballa and a couple of first rd picks, i repeat, teams do not like dealing with the bulls period!
Oh and here’s another one= The pistons agreed on a buyout for Rip to the Cavs, er what….? The stinking CAVS, u mean to tell me u didn’t wanna make that deal to the bulls when they know that Rip would NOT agree to that, which Rip turned down with enthusiasm!! lol, just do that same deal with us and watch Rip agree, but the pistons don’t wanna help the Bulls, oh, but they would help the Cavs?
This is absolutely absurd for the bulls, to be honest I’m getting sick of management hanging on to role players that don’t play thinking they are going to become stars. OJ or CLee may not have been the answer but they sure as hell are more of an answer then Omer Asik…I just can’t believe that the grizzlies were willing to make that deal with the Pacers and we couldn’t propose a better trade with 3 1st round draft picks
Savage-
Memphis wanted a big, which we did not want to give up. Anyway, it looks like Heisley got cold feet and didn’t confirm the deal, which is why it didn’t get done.
Bully-
Didn’t hear about Rip to the Cavs, but they have a $14 million trade exception to absorb his salary and we don’t. If Detroit decides to buy him out he can sign wherever he wants.
I can understand wanting a big but is McRoberts and a pick the best deal the can get for Mayo really? Just didn’t make sense to me. Celtics just got a lot better getting Green for often injured Perkins great move by their front office. What a move by Portland as well getting G. Wallace for just about nothing what a steal. Oh well, I hope a SG gets bought out so we can pick one up.
I think the real issue was draft position. The only Bulls pick that could be in the Lotto would be the one from Charlotte, and we weren’t giving that one up. I’m a little bit more surprised that we couldn’t get Courtney Lee
When we dealt Tyson I wasn’t sorry to see him go. JJ on the other hand, I think will become atleast a decent role player. But I’m glad for JJ, because he will get playing time on the Raptors and will develop. The Bulls have surprised this year and thus had no room to develop JJ as he was too much of a project. Still would have liked to see the Bulls pick up a good ball handling wing that could shoot from the outside.
I read that we could have traded Asik and Bogans for Courtney Lee and Brad Miller. I think that’s a pretty fair trade, and it would make the Bulls better.
Plus 17 with Asik in game he had 11 Boards in 21 minutes no turnovers. I may be the only one but I am glad we did not trade Asik. The second unit represented in the 3rd quarter they should hold their heads up high after this one. So glad we won!! I really do not like the Heat so this was sweet.
Gar/Pax both have said that they will not risk endangering the chemistry of this Bulls team. That should have been a hint that OJ Mayo wasn’t coming to Chicago. Who wants a team mate who welches ona gambling debt and then fights with the guy he owes the money. Do you really think he didn’t know about the substance? Aren’t there two warnings before a suspension? While Mayo may have talent he would be a disruption.
As far as the possibility of trading either Gibson or Asik Gar/Pax has been pretty clear that it would not happen. Both have been pretty solid contributors to the success that the Bulls have experienced this season, especially in the areas of rebounding and defense.
IMO the Bulls standing pat was a good move by a front office that has done a fantastic job so far this year. There is still the possibility that the Bulls could pick up a SG after a buyout. If we do not I will not be terribly upset after the way the Bulls handled the Heat tonight.
But according to multiple league sources, the Bulls aggressively pursued Grizzlies shooting guard O.J. Mayo, offering Ronnie Brewer, two first-round picks and one second-round pick.
I am glad teh Bulls did not panic and send out our good young bigs for a malcontent shooter. That would have violated Rule #1 of sucessful trades: Don’t trade big for small unless the small is obviously the best player in the deal. I am not sold that OJ is better than either Taj or Asik. He can’t even crack the rotation for a mediocre Memphis team. Taj and Asik are rotation players for a title contender. Taj and Asik play lock-down defense in the trenches for the best defensive team in the NBA. Can OJ say the same? Who would you rather have when we have to bang with the Celtics or Lakers in the playoffs? Taj/Asik or OJ? I’ll take what we have and see what happens.
I’m tellin’ ya, there’s a reason everyone wanted Asik in on a deal, and it’s not because they want to help the Bulls out by buying up our dead weight. He showed it tonight. He’s a defensive presence and he attacks the boards. Don’t you figure the Heatles wish they had a guy like him? After their bench sucked up the court? Bet on it.
Grizzles front office appears to be pretty silly turning away 2 first round picks a 2nd rounder and a solid player in Brewer to instead go with McRoberts and one first rounder. Even if they don’t like the Bulls front office do what is best for your team. It is very clear our offer was better. Maybe they were pissed that we would not part with Asik. Either way we are a superior team to the Grizzles and have cap space to boot. Grizzles look pretty silly making comments about why they traded a player only to find out they did not trade him. They look pretty bad.. Well played by our front office they offered the max of what they could.
I agree with you that trading Taj or Asik for Mayo would’ve been a bad move. Obviously the Bulls thought so too. As was made clear in the loss to Toronto, the Bulls aren’t going to win many games when they simply try to outscore the other team. Defense is the main reason the Bulls are where they are now, not offense. Giving up either of those guys would seriously impact the Bulls defensively.
@everyone that’s not impressed with Asik and wanted to see him traded-
In case you haven’t notice, a lot of teams are asking about Asik in a trade. Hmm… I wonder why.. I mean, he is only a rookie, still learning the NBA style of play. Well enough with the sarcasm, the kid is raw talent with incredible potential. He may not be putting up big stats right now, but he will be a legitimate starter in a couple of years. Right now, his game is mostly defense and rebounding, but he has shown flashes of his offensive potential. Even right now, his defense, his lateral quickness, and his athleticism, rebounding and IQ is better than most centers in the league. These are abilities that sometimes can’t be taught, either you have it or you don’t. Asik has these abilities already. What he’s missing he can be taught because the foundation is there. That’s why so many teams lacking a big are so interested in him. Asik is definitely a keeper!
The best stat about Asik is 24, as in he is only 24 years old. Once he hits the weight room hard in the offseason he should be a defensive force. He and Noah will be a good tandem at center for years to come. Many teams struggle to find one good center to start. For the Bulls to have two is just sweet.
BTW: Finding a defensive-minded gaurd who can shoot the 3 should be easy to come by in the draft. There are tons of them.
@Chuck, I agree with you 100%! Exciting times for Bulls fans the future looks very bright. Tell you what, I have been impressed with the Bulls moves ever since Gar took over as GM and worked together with Pax to manage the team. They appear to balance each other out perfectly.
Yes! Taj for Mayo, Asik for Lee were bad deals and we are fine with the TEAM we’ve got. You don’t win by outscoring people in this league, you’ve got to shut them down. It’s not a coincidence that the top three teams in the East are the top three defenses. It would be nice to have another player that is a shot-creator, even for the second team, but we can win with what we have.
Wow looks like we could have gotten Mayo for a first round pick and a bag of chips they just sent him to Indiana For McRoberts and a first round pick. Wow….We should have been able to get him. I and some others I would assume are a bit confused why we did not land Mayo.
I agree. Josh McRoberts? They gave him away.
That trade did not happen because they the grizzlies did not beat the dead line. But even if, teams DO NOT want to help the Bulls because they want too much for too little, u mean josh mc roberts is a LOT better than J.Johnson and 2 first rd picks, please!!
Indiana gives josh mcroberts and a 1st for mayo? we couldn’t give up gibson or asik and a 1st for that? I understand the bulls like the big men off the bench but give me a break. Both are very talented but they are not future all stars. I cannot believe the bulls were so stubborn that they couldn’t fit gibson in the deal.
And charlotte just gave away Gerald Wallace for Joel Prizballa and a couple of first rd picks, i repeat, teams do not like dealing with the bulls period!
Oh and here’s another one= The pistons agreed on a buyout for Rip to the Cavs, er what….? The stinking CAVS, u mean to tell me u didn’t wanna make that deal to the bulls when they know that Rip would NOT agree to that, which Rip turned down with enthusiasm!! lol, just do that same deal with us and watch Rip agree, but the pistons don’t wanna help the Bulls, oh, but they would help the Cavs?
This is absolutely absurd for the bulls, to be honest I’m getting sick of management hanging on to role players that don’t play thinking they are going to become stars. OJ or CLee may not have been the answer but they sure as hell are more of an answer then Omer Asik…I just can’t believe that the grizzlies were willing to make that deal with the Pacers and we couldn’t propose a better trade with 3 1st round draft picks
Matt-
Where are you at that it’s 8:44 PM? London?
Savage-
Memphis wanted a big, which we did not want to give up. Anyway, it looks like Heisley got cold feet and didn’t confirm the deal, which is why it didn’t get done.
Bully-
Didn’t hear about Rip to the Cavs, but they have a $14 million trade exception to absorb his salary and we don’t. If Detroit decides to buy him out he can sign wherever he wants.
I can understand wanting a big but is McRoberts and a pick the best deal the can get for Mayo really? Just didn’t make sense to me. Celtics just got a lot better getting Green for often injured Perkins great move by their front office. What a move by Portland as well getting G. Wallace for just about nothing what a steal. Oh well, I hope a SG gets bought out so we can pick one up.
I think the real issue was draft position. The only Bulls pick that could be in the Lotto would be the one from Charlotte, and we weren’t giving that one up. I’m a little bit more surprised that we couldn’t get Courtney Lee
When we dealt Tyson I wasn’t sorry to see him go. JJ on the other hand, I think will become atleast a decent role player. But I’m glad for JJ, because he will get playing time on the Raptors and will develop. The Bulls have surprised this year and thus had no room to develop JJ as he was too much of a project. Still would have liked to see the Bulls pick up a good ball handling wing that could shoot from the outside.
No moves? No Matter…
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I read that we could have traded Asik and Bogans for Courtney Lee and Brad Miller. I think that’s a pretty fair trade, and it would make the Bulls better.
well no moves now means THERE WILL be moves over the summer….count on that.
……that’s if there’s not a prolonged lockout
What an awesome win!
Plus 17 with Asik in game he had 11 Boards in 21 minutes no turnovers. I may be the only one but I am glad we did not trade Asik. The second unit represented in the 3rd quarter they should hold their heads up high after this one. So glad we won!! I really do not like the Heat so this was sweet.
Gar/Pax both have said that they will not risk endangering the chemistry of this Bulls team. That should have been a hint that OJ Mayo wasn’t coming to Chicago. Who wants a team mate who welches ona gambling debt and then fights with the guy he owes the money. Do you really think he didn’t know about the substance? Aren’t there two warnings before a suspension? While Mayo may have talent he would be a disruption.
As far as the possibility of trading either Gibson or Asik Gar/Pax has been pretty clear that it would not happen. Both have been pretty solid contributors to the success that the Bulls have experienced this season, especially in the areas of rebounding and defense.
IMO the Bulls standing pat was a good move by a front office that has done a fantastic job so far this year. There is still the possibility that the Bulls could pick up a SG after a buyout. If we do not I will not be terribly upset after the way the Bulls handled the Heat tonight.
From Bulls TV: on how Rose felt on coming into the United Center tonight against the Heat, “It’s time to ball out, it’s war time. ” MVP SON!!!
well, Asik surely proved me wrong! ..let’s see some consistency now….great win.
From KC Johnson:
But according to multiple league sources, the Bulls aggressively pursued Grizzlies shooting guard O.J. Mayo, offering Ronnie Brewer, two first-round picks and one second-round pick.
guess they tried….
I am glad teh Bulls did not panic and send out our good young bigs for a malcontent shooter. That would have violated Rule #1 of sucessful trades: Don’t trade big for small unless the small is obviously the best player in the deal. I am not sold that OJ is better than either Taj or Asik. He can’t even crack the rotation for a mediocre Memphis team. Taj and Asik are rotation players for a title contender. Taj and Asik play lock-down defense in the trenches for the best defensive team in the NBA. Can OJ say the same? Who would you rather have when we have to bang with the Celtics or Lakers in the playoffs? Taj/Asik or OJ? I’ll take what we have and see what happens.
I’m tellin’ ya, there’s a reason everyone wanted Asik in on a deal, and it’s not because they want to help the Bulls out by buying up our dead weight. He showed it tonight. He’s a defensive presence and he attacks the boards. Don’t you figure the Heatles wish they had a guy like him? After their bench sucked up the court? Bet on it.
Grizzles front office appears to be pretty silly turning away 2 first round picks a 2nd rounder and a solid player in Brewer to instead go with McRoberts and one first rounder. Even if they don’t like the Bulls front office do what is best for your team. It is very clear our offer was better. Maybe they were pissed that we would not part with Asik. Either way we are a superior team to the Grizzles and have cap space to boot. Grizzles look pretty silly making comments about why they traded a player only to find out they did not trade him. They look pretty bad.. Well played by our front office they offered the max of what they could.
@Chuck
I agree with you that trading Taj or Asik for Mayo would’ve been a bad move. Obviously the Bulls thought so too. As was made clear in the loss to Toronto, the Bulls aren’t going to win many games when they simply try to outscore the other team. Defense is the main reason the Bulls are where they are now, not offense. Giving up either of those guys would seriously impact the Bulls defensively.
@everyone that’s not impressed with Asik and wanted to see him traded-
In case you haven’t notice, a lot of teams are asking about Asik in a trade. Hmm… I wonder why.. I mean, he is only a rookie, still learning the NBA style of play. Well enough with the sarcasm, the kid is raw talent with incredible potential. He may not be putting up big stats right now, but he will be a legitimate starter in a couple of years. Right now, his game is mostly defense and rebounding, but he has shown flashes of his offensive potential. Even right now, his defense, his lateral quickness, and his athleticism, rebounding and IQ is better than most centers in the league. These are abilities that sometimes can’t be taught, either you have it or you don’t. Asik has these abilities already. What he’s missing he can be taught because the foundation is there. That’s why so many teams lacking a big are so interested in him. Asik is definitely a keeper!
The best stat about Asik is 24, as in he is only 24 years old. Once he hits the weight room hard in the offseason he should be a defensive force. He and Noah will be a good tandem at center for years to come. Many teams struggle to find one good center to start. For the Bulls to have two is just sweet.
BTW: Finding a defensive-minded gaurd who can shoot the 3 should be easy to come by in the draft. There are tons of them.
@Chuck, I agree with you 100%! Exciting times for Bulls fans the future looks very bright. Tell you what, I have been impressed with the Bulls moves ever since Gar took over as GM and worked together with Pax to manage the team. They appear to balance each other out perfectly.
Yes! Taj for Mayo, Asik for Lee were bad deals and we are fine with the TEAM we’ve got. You don’t win by outscoring people in this league, you’ve got to shut them down. It’s not a coincidence that the top three teams in the East are the top three defenses. It would be nice to have another player that is a shot-creator, even for the second team, but we can win with what we have.