What can Brown do for the Bulls?

So…what does the Devin Brown acquisition mean for the Chicago Bulls? Who is he, and what skills does he bring to the table? Can he break into the rotation or will he simply take over Aaron Gray’s role of passing out Gatorade in the team huddles?

For starters, here’s a scouting report on Brown from ESPN’s John Hollinger: “Few players were more unrelentingly ordinary than Brown before last season, as he ranked at or near the league average in virtually every statistical category. But at 30 he’s lost some athleticism and began doing what most average players do at this age: quietly falling out of the league. He’s a below-average outside shooter and doesn’t have extraordinary quickness or elevation at the rim. He offsets that with a wide frame that allows him to draw fouls, and he rebounds well for his size. Brown is a good enough ballhandler to play point guard in a pinch but only at the offensive end. He lacks the quickness to keep many shooting guards in front of him, let alone point guards. His strength makes him tough to post up, but he lacks the length to challenge shots.”

Well, that doesn’t sound very promising, does it?

However, Hollinger’s scouting report was written before the season began. Here’s a more up-to-date take on Brown from Niall Doherty of Hornets247:

“Devin Brown was putting up some nice numbers earlier this season, frequently scoring in double figures and shooting better than 45 percent from three in December. But that was exceptional for him. He’s never been known as a legit three-point threat and has only once averaged double figures for a season. He’s prone to slumps and streaks, and he just turned 31 years old last month so don’t expect him to get any better.

“All that said, he can do a few things well. Aside from Chris Paul, Brown was one of the few players in New Orleans who was willing to put the ball on the floor and attack the basket. He’d just put his head down and barge towards the goal. Granted, he’d often pick up a charge doing that, but his aggressive play was a nice contrast to perimeter-inclined guys like Peja Stojakovic and Morris Peterson. Devin can also be an asset defensively, able to body up to big wings and give them some trouble, though he’s likely to get beat by a quick first step. All in all, Devin Brown’s not a terrible player — at least not this season — but he has no business starting in the NBA.”

Alrighty, then. It’s probably safe to say Brown is not the final piece of Chicago’s championship puzzle.

It seems unlikely that Brown will see very many minutes right away. Maybe he and Jannero Pargo can keep each other company on the bench? However, in the big picture, it does seem likely that the Bulls traded for Brown in case they get the chance to dump the contract of Kirk Hinrich or John Salmons. In fact, it took almost no time at all for a Hinrich to the Lakers rumor to heat up (after which it immediately cooled down).

Given that the Bulls have clearly pinned much of their future plans on the already-fabled Summer of 2010, it’s probable that they will do everything they can to clear a little more cap space before the trade deadline. Of course, any deal involving Hinrich or Salmons could be bad in the short term, since both of them have been playing well since Vinny Del Negro pulled the switcheroo that sent Salmons to the bench so Captain Kirk could start. And their improved play — along with Derrick Rose’s recent ascent to superstardom — has made the Bulls a much better team.

Would giving one (or both) of them up be worth a shot at making the Bulls a much, much better team next season?

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16 Responses to What can Brown do for the Bulls?

  1. mikemayer3@hotmail.com'
    thirdsaint January 27, 2010 at 4:14 pm #

    In reference to your last question, I say it depends on who we give up. I’d rather keep Kirk and trade Salmons if we could. Salmons is less important to the team this year and him leaving wouldn’t hit our defense as hard as Kirk leaving would. At this point our defense has been good enough to help our low offense, which has admittingly picked up, win games. If Kirk were to leave we’d see the PG’s he has been shutting down scoring a whole lot more. We simply don’t have the type of offense to handle that and especially not in the playoffs.

    Meanwhile, giving up Salmons would be a slight hit on the bench but someone like Brown can do a little bit to replace his offense and the defensive hit wouldn’t be as bad. Really, I only see us getting Brown to give Pargo less time on the court and that’s a good thing. Pargo has been atrocious this season and while Brown isn’t much better he still is an upgrade.

    Also, as far as I understand, the only reason to trade Hinrich would be to go after 2 big FA’s. I just don’t see us being able to land 2 of them and trading him may hurt our chances to convince a star FA to want to come here with our supporting cast. If we go after either Wade or JJ then Salmons will have to be gone anyhow and we sure don’t want him to pick up his player option for next season. Hinrich can back up Rose (the only guy we have to back him up) and give us defense.

  2. rchs24jg@yahoo.com'
    letsgobulls_24 January 27, 2010 at 4:45 pm #

    Get rid of Salmons. It would be nice to keep Kirk, but if he must go, then so be it. I’m a huge Hinrich fan- met him in person, autograph and everything- but the opportunity to get 2 marquee FA’s will be there, and we have to take advantage of that. We probably won’t be the champs this year, so I say go for it.

    Personally, I’m hoping we land Chris Bosh and Joe Johnson. I think that’s a realistic possibility, and I think they would compliment the other starters well. I need to go get that NBA2K10 game and test my theory like that other guy did, lol.

  3. mikemayer3@hotmail.com'
    thirdsaint January 27, 2010 at 4:59 pm #

    That other guy was me, haha. I only traded for Bosh and also Courtney Lee from the Nets. It’s worked out quite well actually and lets me see how Bosh would look in a Bulls uniform if I never see it in the real world. :-P

    We can trade Salmons for expiring trash all we want. I just think it’d be a mistake to trade Hinrich for such if we have no one to play defense or back up Rose. We should only trade Kirk if it’s part of a deal to get good players in return.

  4. Raevyrn January 27, 2010 at 6:55 pm #

    It all really boils down to whether or not we can get Bosh. As pointed out before we could use a premier big and one or two accurate three point shooters to help spread the floor. If we cannot get Bosh do people think David Lee is the next best option? I’m not too keen on Amare due to his defense.

    To this end regarding your question of who to give up if any, I think it also depends on what Salmons, Rose, Deng, and Hinrich would work on in the summer. What if they focused on the three point shot and came back a lot more proficient? I’m not sure how difficult this is but it would address that deficiency, removing the need to dump either.

    Salmons is probably the more expendable of the two. If you do trade him, who would you go after in offseason? Joe Johnson? Wade? However Salmons is currently ranked 7th in 3PT% for shooting guards on ESPN’s stats so I’m not too sure who we could get that’d be an improvement really.

    Do others think the best candidates for our SG and PF/C need are Bosh/Lee and Wade/Johnson? If so, which combination would work best and how likely?

  5. sportytomboy1212@aim.com'
    dj January 27, 2010 at 8:39 pm #

    I totally agree with your comment thirdsaint, I also think the Bulls should trade John Salmons along with Tyrus Thomas or Jerome James for a solid PF player. If I was the Bulls GM and I was thinking about trading Kirk Hinrich, I would want a guaranteed super star in return for him since he is playing at a high level. Someone like: Chris Bosh, Amare Stoudemire or even Carlos Boozer. If the Bulls trade Kirk Hinrich for no star in return, then it is a lost deal for Chicago. Plus the Bulls did pick up a replacement for the SG position which is D. Brown who can put up solid numbers like John Salmons by coming off the bench.

    Here are some trade ideas:

    1st: The Bulls should try to work out a deal with the Sun for Amare Stoudemire since they mate trade him before the deadline. The Bulls can offer the Suns: John Salmons, Tyrus Thomas, Jerome James and our 1st round draft pick to sweeten the deal.

    2nd: If that deal does not work, then they should trade: Tyrus Thomas, John Salmons and our 1st round draft pick to NY for Al Harrington and Wilson Chandler.

    Then with either of these two moves, they will fix and solve their problems on offense to help D. Rose.

  6. felipeagarcia87@hotmail.com'
    felipe garcia January 27, 2010 at 8:53 pm #

    I like the way you think DJ, I can actually see that move happening. If the Bulls pick up A. Stoudemire then they fix their problems on offense with an inside guy. If they choice to go with the other direction for my guy Al Harrington and Wilson Chandler then they have to guys with versatility. Al Harrington can play the 3, 4 & 5 and Wilson Chandler can play the 2 or 3.

  7. DMILLER318@YAHOO.COM'
    TRUTH January 27, 2010 at 10:15 pm #

    I AGREE THAT WE SHOULD ONLY TRADE HINRICK FOR A GOOD PLAYER IN RETURN DNT JUST GIVE HIM AWAY. AND IT WOULD BE SMARTER TO TRADE SALMONS AND A COUPLE MORE PLAYERS 4 AN INSIDE PRESENCE OR AN EXPIRING CONTRACT.

  8. bob.edwards47@yahoo.com'
    Boppinbob January 28, 2010 at 4:08 am #

    With Captain Kirk getting 33-38 min per game the Bulls are getting what they are paying for and also putting up some W’s. He and Rose are a very good combination. Salmons has not given the Bulls what they saw after the trade last year, and consistency just isn’t there coming off the bench. At this time Capt Kirk seems to be the “heart” of the Bulls, if he is sent away I believe that there will be a significant fall off in their performance.

  9. cchb3058@yahoo.com'
    Bulls93 January 28, 2010 at 5:42 am #

    Heard the Lakers aren’t real happy with Bynum after missing the team plane. Trade Hinrich, Thomas & a draft pick for Bynum and Farmar. Go after Joe Johnson and David Lee in FA. I would like to see D Wade, Bosh or Stoudamire in Chicago but that might not be realistic. With a aging Boston team, a Cleveland team that may have problems with (due to who are the going to be able to afford to play around him) or without Lebron the following line up would boost the bulls into the top 3 in the Eastern Conference next year. Chicago may have to pay some luxury tax like every other good team in the NBA does but it shouldn’t be to bad and would be worth it.

    PG – Rose, Farmar
    SG – Joe Johnson, Brown
    SF – Deng, James Johnson
    PF – Lee, Gibson
    C – Noah, Bynum

  10. mrgar87@live.com'
    mike killer January 28, 2010 at 8:11 am #

    I Agree, Kirk Hinrick is starting to play at a higher level ever since he became a starter and he is part of the reason why they are getting more W’s now. I also like the idea of DJ of getting: Amare Stoudemire and Arron Collins to balance out the salary money with players by trading John Salmons, Tyrus Thomas, Jerome James and a 1st round draft pick or I like the idea of Al Harrington and Wilson Chandler trade involving John Salmons, Tyrus Thomas and a 1st round draft pick to get them. With either one of these moves will help the Bulls make a strong playoff run, if we get these guys. Can you guys image this updated roster.

    Starters:
    PG: D. Rose
    SG: K. Hinrick
    SF: L. Deng
    PF: A. Stoudemire (All Star)
    C: J. Noah
    Bench:
    B. Miller
    D. Brown
    J. Pargo
    L. Hunter
    Arron Collins
    Taj Gibson
    J. Johnson

    OR

    Starter:
    PG: D. Rose
    SG: K. Hinrick
    SF: L. Deng
    PF: Taj Gibson
    C: J. Noah
    Fire Power off the Bench:
    Al Harrington (offense)
    W. Chandler (offense)
    B. Miller
    J. Pargo
    L. Hunter
    J. Johnson
    D. Brown

  11. Ryan January 28, 2010 at 5:29 pm #

    Thirdsaint has the right idea. Salmons can be replaced, but Kirk has much more value. I am worried that the D. Brown pickup may lead to a package with Kirk, but the same could be possible with Salmons.

  12. jallenforex@yahoo.com'
    Jay January 29, 2010 at 12:24 am #

    There are very few scenarios in which teams are going to pick up 3 years at 9 million a year for Hinrich. He’s a decent player, but not worth that much.

    John Salmons has one year left on his deal at 6.5 mil after this season. Realistically, you probably want to try and move Hinrich because of the larger figures, longer contract and quite frankly he and Salmons bring about equal value to the team.

    I think we should only consider a move middle of the season if we can get:

    1. Chris Bosh in a sign and trade (Toronto knows their losing him, I propose Tyrus, Salmons, First round pick and Jerome James to make the salary work). Toronto gets an expiring contract, two starters and a pick for someone they are going to lose for nothing.

    2. Andrew Bynum for Hinrich and Tyrus Thomas (The Lakers have a better chance to win a championship with a floor general/defender like Hinrich and an athlete like Tyrus playing with Kobe. Point guard play and getting scorched by good PG’s is their only weakness. Gasol and Bynum often can’t play together against fast teams and Lamar Odom brings as much to the table as Bynum does).

    3. (Riskiest one, means much less if we dont land Lebron,Wade or at least Joe Johnson).

    Tyrus Thomes,Kirk Hinrich,James Johnson, Jerome James and a draft pick for Al Jefferson and Ramon Sessions. (Minnesota had one of the NBA’s 50 greatest players for over a decade and accomplished zilch. You can’t do it with just one great player, now they are trying to do it with just one kinda good player. They are destined to be lottery bound for the century at this pace. This gives them three starters and an expiring contract. We get an all star caliber post player and a decent backup for Rose. Then we would just need to add Dwayne Wade in the offseason and we would win a championship in the next 2 years and probably many after that. Noah, Al Jefferson, L. Deng, Salmons/D.Brown, D. Rose is a very good starting five. Insert Wade into that mix, or if not Joe Johnson and it’s lights out Eastern conference.

  13. flamesg22@gmail.com'
    Hawkpg January 29, 2010 at 4:33 pm #

    why does everyone want to get rid of kirk. he is playing extremely well at the 2 gaurd. sense starting he is averageing 12 points, 5.6 assists, 1 steal and 3.4 rebounds. he can aslo stretch the floor for rose sense he is shooting 36 percent from the 3. everyone says he is not a good 2 gaurd cause of his size. WHAT?! wade is 6-4, manu is 6-4, and allen iverson is 6-0. kirk is 6-3 and not as long as wade or manu, but he is 6-3 and he is an awesome defender, he proved that aganst the celtics in the playoffs gaurding 6-8 paul peirce. 6-8, thats tall, does kirk need 2 be 2 inches taller to play SG when he can gaurd 6-8 people, i think not. keep the guy, winning has gone up sense he was put into the starting roll.

  14. mrgarcia87@yahoo.com'
    dj January 31, 2010 at 5:46 am #

    Jay can you please stop smoking that strong drug, you said Salmons and Hinrich have the same value are you crazy??? Have you been paying any attention to how they are playing with Hinrich at the starting lineup? Hint: they are kicking a lot of teams butt. If anything the Bulls should only focus on trading: Tyrus Thomas, John Salmons, D. Brown or Jerome James with the Bulls draft picks to sweeten some deals. Nothing more because no more is going to want a guy like: J.J, Pargo or Hunter right now lol. Let’s make some smart moves like I said earlier like:

    John Salmons, Tyrus Thomas & the bulls 1st or 2nd round draft pick to sweeten the deal for Al Harrington & Wilson Chandler from New York. That way the Bulls can keep Al Harrington 10 million dollar this summer so they can have enough money to sign Chris Bosh, Amare Stoudemire or David Lee. Then the Bulls are set next year with a starting line up that looks like this:

    Starters 2010-2011:
    PG: D. Rose
    SG: K. Hinrich or W. Chandler
    SF: L. Deng
    PF: Chris Bosh, Amare Stoudemire or David Lee
    C: J. Noah
    Bench:
    J. Johnson
    Taj Gibson
    W. Chandler or K. Hinrich
    1st or 2nd round draft pick player they choose
    and other free agent solid players

  15. mrgarcia87@yahoo.com'
    dj January 31, 2010 at 5:49 am #

    to a small 1 year contract.

  16. chicondo@hotmail.com'
    luvabullnj February 3, 2010 at 1:08 am #

    I love how everyone thinks the other teams are just going to let the Bulls have their good players or expiring contracts with out getting anything in return. Why would the other team want to make such a deal? Toronto is not giving up Bosh, or Phoenix Amar’e, or even NY Harrington and especially Chandler (too good at the cheap price) without getting a prime steak in return.

    So what can Brown do for the Bulls? He makes John Salmons expendable, so I look for the Bulls to trade Salmons before the trade deadline but (hopefully) not Hinrich. If they can package him with some combination of Jarome James and/or Ty Thomas and/or a draft pick to get a post player, that would be gravy. But I’d settle for an expiring contract that would give the Bulls more cap space for the summer.

    Here is one option I have not seen yet on the boards but would work for both teams and therefore have much better chance of actually happening.

    Josh Howard ~$11M for Salmons + Jerome James, ~$12M. Howard might do well with a change in scenery. Otherwise his expiring contract give the Bulls ~$4.4M additional to throw at a superstar. Salmons may give the Mavs what they are not getting out of Howard.

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