Comments on: Should Derrick Rose apologize if he wins the MVP award?

By: A'aliyah

A'aliyah — Wed, 13 Apr 2011 19:24:49 +0000

As far as im concerned d.rose deserves the mvp award. Lebron James is an impressive player i will give him tha but he never shares the ball with his other teammates like rose. Rose is the leader on the team and shares his outstanding success with the rest of his teammates like kover who knocks down sick 3 point shoots and omere asik who can dunk everytime he gets the chance. Rose can fly past anyone he wants and can get anyone he wants open. Unlike lebron, rose motivates the rest of his team to shoot while d.wade and lebron score threwout the entire game with no help from their bench. Rose has carried his team with boozer and noah out for numerous of games. Lebron is not a team player and doesnt understand the meaning of team. If James was a so called “MVP” his team would be the number one seed in the NBA but a you can see that didnt happen. He also would have beat the bulls but unfortantly lost all three times playingg. Rose is so humble and while people say numbers count they do but when you look at how the entire team has grown thats shows the true results. So my vote is ROSE FOR MVP.!!

By: Why Derrick Rose Will (Not Should) Win MVP Over Lebron James « Hard hat. Lunch pail.

Wed, 30 Mar 2011 16:22:11 +0000

[…] As the regular season slowly comes to an end, the MVP talk has been even more rampant. With most signs pointing to Derrick Rose as the likely recipient of the award, there is little doubt that he won’t win it. Sure there have been tons of detractors like Dan Le Batard who will try and convince you that he shouldn’t win it. Heck, Bulls by the Horns has a whole list of them in his recent post here. […]

By: inkybreath

inkybreath — Sat, 26 Mar 2011 19:28:04 +0000

The only thing about Orlando is they do have playmakers. JRich, Turkalu, Nelson…

The Bulls don’t have players that can break down defenses.

Howard’s post-game has gotten better and there is a lot of that improvement that I haven’t seen for myself, but I think it still rings true….

By: spacetime

spacetime — Sat, 26 Mar 2011 14:11:50 +0000

The irony of course is that one stat has always been looked at for determining MVP: team wins. It’s the most important stat, but now that we have all these advanced stats, people forget about it and prefer PER or whatever.

LeBron and Howard’s teams aren’t as successful as Rose’s. And Rose is more important than LeBron for his team’s success. It’s not that difficult to understand. I could see the case for Howard, he’s a beast and his team really depends on him, and his team is doing significantly worse than Rose’s (and you can’t say that the bulls are much more talented than Orlando – we just play a lot better as a team and are a bit more balanced, but talent wise I don’t think there’s a big difference). But for all the stat nerds to say it should be LeBron is a joke.

By: Shannon Mayfield

Shannon Mayfield — Sat, 26 Mar 2011 07:32:26 +0000

Just thought I’d note that in the first 4 examples used, the MVP was selected by player vote only.

By: inkybreath

inkybreath — Fri, 25 Mar 2011 23:58:27 +0000

The NBA needs their “Silver Slugger Award” – I don’t think it would detract from the MVP and hell, the same person could win both.

It’s true that every year we hear the harping of the abstract nature of this process.

And, just to more logs to the fire – Mr. Rose had to become the leader of a COMPLETELY brand new team. He had to manage his own growth process, learn how to listen to a new coach and his intense defensive system, integrate with all the new personalities on and off the court, step up and let his team know that they would be okay without Boozer… and so on!

Grrrr…. I love how easy it is to fight for Rose. He makes it an effortless enterprise.

By: Matt McHale

Matt McHale — Fri, 25 Mar 2011 22:50:49 +0000

“It’s like that because we have copious amount of data, observation, and technology to make the right and informed decision. That’s why there’s a hubbub now.”

Eddy! Whattup?

I have a question: What is “right” in an award selection process that has never had any rules? That’s sort of my point, right? This always happens with MVP, no matter which side you’re arguing on: People are trying to project their particular protocol onto a decision-making process that has never had any rules.

And that just bugs the hell out of people. It’s so…vague and uncontrolled. It can’t be explained or predicted. And it it could be, how interesting would it be? If year after year the PER leader, say, would be given MVP. Where’s the interest? The excitement? The anticipation?

By: Kristyn

Kristyn — Fri, 25 Mar 2011 22:17:35 +0000

1st I would like to say great article. here’s the issue I have with stats (which is why I will only reference poll results and common sense) stats don’t tell the whole story. I will say I’m a derrick Rose/ Chicago bulls fan which I’m sure Will come across but Derrick Rose is the MVP. If u look at ESPN polls on who should be MVP D.Rose runs away with the award somewhere around 65% of the votes. You know who votes in those polls…ppl who actually WATCH games..not ppl nerds who are obsessed with advanced stats and things of the nature. The MVP award is not about the BEST player in the league or Kobe would have more than one. MVP is also not called the most outstanding or the Best Stat line award or Dwight would have won or at least been mentioned last year along with Dirk and KD. I also take issue with ppl saying D.Rose isn’t efficient. is that a joke? Efficient would translate to wins right? well D.Rose and his Bulls hold the best record against all the other nominees mentioned. And why is it wrong that ppl r “already” considering him MVP um….70 games have been played. I don’t care what so and so did after the all star break.. Derrick has done it since OCTOBER! Carlos Boozer and Jo Noah missed 54. Yes 54! And Derrick has led his team to victores. Yes Thibs has been great preaching defense and yes the bench is great defensively but Derrick shouldered much of the work. Yes Lu has been great recently but let’s not forget how inconsistent he was in the beginning I guess my point is ppl makes thing so difficult when its really common sense yes it may appear simplistic but most things in life are. Derrick has done the most with least (w/ 2 of his most important teammates missing 50+ games) yet he has his team 1st in the East. He worked hard all off season to get better then brought into a new coachs defensive system. That’s not a good story that’s the FACTS.

By: Eddy Rivera

Eddy Rivera — Fri, 25 Mar 2011 21:30:07 +0000

“But my point is that storyline has been a big part of MVP voting since way back when. Only now, for some reason, we’re supposed to believe that’s ‘wrong’ or ‘bad’ or “unfair.’ ”

It’s like that because we have copious amount of data, observation, and technology to make the right and informed decision. That’s why there’s a hubbub now.

By: Matt

Matt — Fri, 25 Mar 2011 18:46:06 +0000

Good article.

To all the haters out there. I don’t give a rats ass what any ones stats are or their PERs or wins above replacement bullshit. Watch a game and see the load that Drose carries every single night. See how relentless he is and the will he imposes.

Lebron James is playing with a top 5 player in the league and a perennial all star. Thats the way he wanted it. If he wants to win MVP he either A. Needs to win 72 plus games or B. needs to average 30 10 and 10.

Kobe Bryant is on the two time defending champs. He plays with two talented 7 footers and a sixth man of the year candidate, and a HOF coach.

Derrick Rose and Dwight Howard should be the only two players in the conversation for most VALUABLE player. Its not most outstanding player or best player. Its most VALUABLE. There is no one in the league that is more VALUABLE to their teams then Rose and Howard.