Comments on: Derrick Rose: Go-to guy or not?

By: Points in the Paint | JockSpin.com

Points in the Paint | JockSpin.com — Wed, 25 Jan 2012 02:03:36 +0000

[…] Matt McHale on whether Derrick Rose can become Chicago’s go-to guy: “So yes, Rose needs to take over. But can he? In addition to Vinny’s system and his team’s inability to knock down shots, Rose doesn’t seem to have that “me the ball and get the hell out of my way” mentality. He has the talent and the physical skills. Does he have the necessary inner hombre? It’s hard to tell. I’ve watched every game Rose has played as a pro. I’ve gone over his game logs. He’s had a handful of great games, several very good games, and a lot of games that were just good. But he has yet to play an extended stretch of dominant basketball. You know, the kind where nobody can stop him and he takes his teammates to another level.” […]

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Derrick Rose explodes: Bulls 121, Wizards 119 » By The Horns — Sat, 16 Jan 2010 17:07:56 +0000

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By: gnh86

gnh86 — Thu, 17 Dec 2009 18:07:26 +0000

Keep in mind that Deron Williams and Chris Paul weren’t THAT good in their second years. Paul shot 43%. The only thing they were better at than Rose was passing.

By: GERRY

GERRY — Thu, 17 Dec 2009 14:28:17 +0000

I think Rose is at his best when he pushes the ball in transition, getting penetration before the defense has any time to set up. In those situations, player spacing is usually not an issue, and the drive-and-kick becomes more effective if the defense is still scrambling. These situations give Deng a better chance at not having a defender in his face when he takes 20 footers, and I think Noah’s offense is much better when he’s running the court and getting a dump off pass for an easy dunk/layup. But most of all, Rose has a better chance of getting that easy layup or floater in the lane when he pushes in transition. I can’t think of too many people faster than he is with the ball right now, and a faster paced running offense just looks better compared to their half court sets which…yeah…

Uninspired? Predictable? Lame?

I mean c’mon! Give Deng or Salmons some Reggie Miller-like screen sets to get them 2 or 3 more open looks a game, especially Deng who I actually trust to take a 20 footer. Create some plays involving Miller and Noah where they can catch a sleepy defense with a backdoor lob every once in a while. And I don’t know…maybe some more isos for Rose or 2-man games with either Miller or Noah and just let the guy create something. Anything. 16 and 6 are nice numbers, but his talent and skill should merit more than that.

By: Burke

Burke — Thu, 17 Dec 2009 08:19:23 +0000

I agree with you Andres, I think I should have been more clear in my comment. It definitely takes both to win a championship.

My point was that even with a bad coach, a great player can still have great performances; not enough to win a championship or even win a ton of games, but at least enough to show the special talents of that player. I want to see more from Rose.

By: andres Lopez

andres Lopez — Wed, 16 Dec 2009 22:04:14 +0000

you have to have a lil bit of both. A Star player and a good Coach to win a championship title.

By: andres Lopez

andres Lopez — Wed, 16 Dec 2009 22:02:13 +0000

IdK about that Burke, Sometime it takes a lil bit of both in winning a championship: having a good coach and a star players. For example: look at Houston they have no star players except T. Mac and they are playing way better without him. You want to know the reason why they are playing well? it is because of Rick Adelman their head coach. When the Lakers won their championship who was their coach VD? lol no Phil Jackson of course. I just made my point. Same thing goes for the Celtics and San Antonio Spurs.

By: Bert

Bert — Wed, 16 Dec 2009 08:46:58 +0000

I concur with the spectacular player comments to a point. While I completely agree that DR needs to attack more, without spacing thats almost impossible. I think DR realizes that the Deng 20 footer is a better option then attempting a contested layup with 3 defenders surrounding him (you wouldn’t want him hitting the floor as much as Wade does). That being said I feel like Del Negro isn’t putting his players in a position to succeed offensively, which is truely sad. Not to say that its all on Del Negro’s shoulders, but attacking lanes can be created via a functioning offense with seems to be non existent. Not only is there a lack of fluidity but also there seems to be a lack of off the ball movement that facilitates DR from getting the assists that a Deron Williams or even a Steve Nash would be handing out.

By: Burke

Burke — Wed, 16 Dec 2009 01:00:33 +0000

I’m not here to defend Del Negro but I think it’s a little much for some people commenting to blame Rose’s woes all on the coach. Players can become great without having some superstar head coach. That is why they say “players play and coaches coach.” Sure, it is up to Vinny to put all of his players in a position to succeed and the Bulls lack of direction on offense can partly be credited to the system.

Really good players, however, have the ability to have really good games no matter what system they are in. I would feel a little bit better about Derrick and the Bull’s future if we could see some flashes of brilliance. He sometimes seems to take over but its always with contested jump shots and his much criticized ugly floater-push shot instead of creating easy shots for his team or using practiced moves to get a good look.

The other thing is that he must lead the league in really spectacular looking missed layups. It is a travesty for someone as physically talented as Rose to leave so many points at the rim.

By: andres Lopez

andres Lopez — Tue, 15 Dec 2009 20:08:07 +0000

I totally agree with you guys, D. Rose does need a new experience coach like Byron Scott, to help him reach the next level into becoming an All Star player like CP3. The only reason why coach V.D. had an ok season last year was because of BG since he was playing for a bigger contract with Chicago and he took off a lot of pressure on D. Rose and John Salmons to score more points, since BG was the main go to guy. Now since he is gone, their is more pressure added on D. Rose and John Salmons, since everybody know what they are capable of doing. The Bulls need to get an experience coach like Byron Scott and get another go to guy scorer like AL in a trade soon! If this deal happens soon, trust me the Bulls will be back in the playoffs for sure.