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	<title>Comments on: Daily science: The best on-court Bull</title>
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		<title>By: eric b</title>
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		<dc:creator>eric b</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Jan 2009 22:37:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[One player&#039;s +/- is clearly dependent on how other players perform while he is in the game.  A player can do nothing and have a fine +/- or play well and have a poor measure.  this is the same reason that serious stat-guys in baseball don&#039;t take runs batted in seriously for hitters or wins and losses for pitchers (which is, essentially, a plus/minus system).  Not sure why anyone pays attention to it, but I guess that this the work of people with no math training trying to make what they do seem more rigorous.   See phil rogers&#039;s plus-minus system for rating offseasons for baseball teams.  its like a kid playing doctor or architect.  wearing a white coat and a stethoscope doesn&#039;t allow one to treat patients, and throwing pluses and minuses around doesn&#039;t necessarily help us value players accurately.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One player&#8217;s +/- is clearly dependent on how other players perform while he is in the game.  A player can do nothing and have a fine +/- or play well and have a poor measure.  this is the same reason that serious stat-guys in baseball don&#8217;t take runs batted in seriously for hitters or wins and losses for pitchers (which is, essentially, a plus/minus system).  Not sure why anyone pays attention to it, but I guess that this the work of people with no math training trying to make what they do seem more rigorous.   See phil rogers&#8217;s plus-minus system for rating offseasons for baseball teams.  its like a kid playing doctor or architect.  wearing a white coat and a stethoscope doesn&#8217;t allow one to treat patients, and throwing pluses and minuses around doesn&#8217;t necessarily help us value players accurately.</p>
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		<title>By: Bulls-Knicks: At a glance &#187; By The Horns</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bulls-Knicks: At a glance &#187; By The Horns</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Jan 2009 02:43:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] woes, Andres Nocioni was 1-for-9 but mysterously had the best plus-minus score on the team (+5). Hey, science has proven that the Bulls need him on the floor. The Boys in Red also got pretty careless with the ball – their 17 turnovers were [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] woes, Andres Nocioni was 1-for-9 but mysterously had the best plus-minus score on the team (+5). Hey, science has proven that the Bulls need him on the floor. The Boys in Red also got pretty careless with the ball – their 17 turnovers were [...]</p>
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