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		<title>By: Bass</title>
		<link>http://bullsbythehorns.com/?p=1496&#038;cpage=1#comment-29646</link>
		<dc:creator>Bass</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Jan 2010 15:22:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is addressed to DJ a max deal consist of 16,224,600 a year, thats the highest a person can get on a max deal with less than 10 years of experience in the NBA.  Dont take my word for it, look it up.

Felipe if i had a choice to aquire Ginolbi over Kevin Martin for Hinrich and Thomas being involved i would do it, not saying thats direction i would prefer to go in, but if i had to choose one or the other it would be Ginolbi.  Here&#039;s why Ginolbi contract is up this year freeing money up to be able to sign two top of the line free agents  (Bosh and J.Johnson).  On the other hand K.Martin contract inflates every year.  Putting us futher and further pass the the salary cap.

Also for the record it has been reported that bosh would like to head to Chicago, so our chances of signing a sold free agent is very good, especially if we have money to spend.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is addressed to DJ a max deal consist of 16,224,600 a year, thats the highest a person can get on a max deal with less than 10 years of experience in the NBA.  Dont take my word for it, look it up.</p>
<p>Felipe if i had a choice to aquire Ginolbi over Kevin Martin for Hinrich and Thomas being involved i would do it, not saying thats direction i would prefer to go in, but if i had to choose one or the other it would be Ginolbi.  Here&#8217;s why Ginolbi contract is up this year freeing money up to be able to sign two top of the line free agents  (Bosh and J.Johnson).  On the other hand K.Martin contract inflates every year.  Putting us futher and further pass the the salary cap.</p>
<p>Also for the record it has been reported that bosh would like to head to Chicago, so our chances of signing a sold free agent is very good, especially if we have money to spend.</p>
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		<title>By: felipe garcia</title>
		<link>http://bullsbythehorns.com/?p=1496&#038;cpage=1#comment-29640</link>
		<dc:creator>felipe garcia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Jan 2010 07:33:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Plus you said it yourself &#039;Bass&#039; Here is a list of expring contracts from  the Bulls team this year.

B.Miller: 12,250,000
J.James: 6,600,000
A.Gray 1,000,497
J.Pargo 1,990,000
L.Hunter 825,497
and If J.Salmons ops out thats another 6,429,150 and don&#039;t forget they also have some save money for not signing back Ben Gordan this year, so that already a lot of money save up for this coming summer. Meaning they really don&#039;t need Ginobli money to be another addiction like I said before.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Plus you said it yourself &#8216;Bass&#8217; Here is a list of expring contracts from  the Bulls team this year.</p>
<p>B.Miller: 12,250,000<br />
J.James: 6,600,000<br />
A.Gray 1,000,497<br />
J.Pargo 1,990,000<br />
L.Hunter 825,497<br />
and If J.Salmons ops out thats another 6,429,150 and don&#8217;t forget they also have some save money for not signing back Ben Gordan this year, so that already a lot of money save up for this coming summer. Meaning they really don&#8217;t need Ginobli money to be another addiction like I said before.</p>
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		<title>By: Bass</title>
		<link>http://bullsbythehorns.com/?p=1496&#038;cpage=1#comment-29639</link>
		<dc:creator>Bass</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Jan 2010 04:43:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Felipe Garcia really need to do his homework for several reasons.  First reason being that D.Rose and J.Noah are signed till 2011.  

Second when the time comes the most they both can see if they are signed to a max deal are 13,000,000 a year since they are under 6yrs played in the league, look it up Felipe.  Ultimately Jerry Reinsdorf said that he is willing to go over the salary cap if the team was considered championship contenders.  Which brings me to this point do you really think we can win with the starting line up of your scenario. Please!!!!  And to retain that line up, you have posted, we will be over the salary cap after signing J.Noah and D.Rose in 2011.
Want happen, not a chance!

Third, right now the Wizards and the Cavs are rumored to possibly swap of Antwoine Jamison for Zydrunas Ilgauskas.  Last time I check Zydrunas Ilgauskas isnt a star player, not close.  Only thing valuable about Big Z is his expiring contract, but the Cavs are still hesitant cause Jamison doesnt play the defense needed to win championships, meaning Antwoine aint that great of a player!  Star player, last time i check you had to play in the All Stars to be consider a Star player and he aint doing that this year.  A undersized PF is what he is, that can stretch the defense, but plays no defense.

If we gave Washington Kirk Hinirich and a first round draft pick for them to release Jamison to Toronto I think is more than enough.  And if that doesnt fit the bill, Toronto can give them a young prospect in Amir Johnson whose contract expires at the end of the year.
Anyway its done, both scenarios work, input in the trade machine and they both are successful. 

And by the way your boy K.Martin&#039;s contract inflates every year, nothing cheap about him!  Believe nothing you hear and half of what you see, look it up. Holla</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Felipe Garcia really need to do his homework for several reasons.  First reason being that D.Rose and J.Noah are signed till 2011.  </p>
<p>Second when the time comes the most they both can see if they are signed to a max deal are 13,000,000 a year since they are under 6yrs played in the league, look it up Felipe.  Ultimately Jerry Reinsdorf said that he is willing to go over the salary cap if the team was considered championship contenders.  Which brings me to this point do you really think we can win with the starting line up of your scenario. Please!!!!  And to retain that line up, you have posted, we will be over the salary cap after signing J.Noah and D.Rose in 2011.<br />
Want happen, not a chance!</p>
<p>Third, right now the Wizards and the Cavs are rumored to possibly swap of Antwoine Jamison for Zydrunas Ilgauskas.  Last time I check Zydrunas Ilgauskas isnt a star player, not close.  Only thing valuable about Big Z is his expiring contract, but the Cavs are still hesitant cause Jamison doesnt play the defense needed to win championships, meaning Antwoine aint that great of a player!  Star player, last time i check you had to play in the All Stars to be consider a Star player and he aint doing that this year.  A undersized PF is what he is, that can stretch the defense, but plays no defense.</p>
<p>If we gave Washington Kirk Hinirich and a first round draft pick for them to release Jamison to Toronto I think is more than enough.  And if that doesnt fit the bill, Toronto can give them a young prospect in Amir Johnson whose contract expires at the end of the year.<br />
Anyway its done, both scenarios work, input in the trade machine and they both are successful. </p>
<p>And by the way your boy K.Martin&#8217;s contract inflates every year, nothing cheap about him!  Believe nothing you hear and half of what you see, look it up. Holla</p>
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		<title>By: dj</title>
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		<dc:creator>dj</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Jan 2010 04:15:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yah, I totally agree with that Felipe guy, the chances of the Bulls landing a top super star player like: Wade, Bosh or Joe Johnson are 10-40% chances. I also think that the Wizard are not that dumb to give up Antwan Jamison for no super star player in return. If this move works, the Wizard will be the one asking for Chris Bosh in exchange to give up Antwan Jamison. Plus the move for Kevin Martin, Al Harrington and Beno Udrih is not a bad idea. I can see the Bulls making this deal. They will get cheaper solid players in return, instead of paying for a big money guy like: Bosh, Wade or Joe Johnson because you know they will be asking for a contract close to 20 million dollars a year like Shaq, T-Mac and Kobe got.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yah, I totally agree with that Felipe guy, the chances of the Bulls landing a top super star player like: Wade, Bosh or Joe Johnson are 10-40% chances. I also think that the Wizard are not that dumb to give up Antwan Jamison for no super star player in return. If this move works, the Wizard will be the one asking for Chris Bosh in exchange to give up Antwan Jamison. Plus the move for Kevin Martin, Al Harrington and Beno Udrih is not a bad idea. I can see the Bulls making this deal. They will get cheaper solid players in return, instead of paying for a big money guy like: Bosh, Wade or Joe Johnson because you know they will be asking for a contract close to 20 million dollars a year like Shaq, T-Mac and Kobe got.</p>
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		<title>By: felipe garcia</title>
		<link>http://bullsbythehorns.com/?p=1496&#038;cpage=1#comment-29637</link>
		<dc:creator>felipe garcia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Jan 2010 03:50:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>o0o and Beno Udrih as the backup point guard for Derrick Rose</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>o0o and Beno Udrih as the backup point guard for Derrick Rose</p>
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		<title>By: felipe garcia</title>
		<link>http://bullsbythehorns.com/?p=1496&#038;cpage=1#comment-29636</link>
		<dc:creator>felipe garcia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Jan 2010 03:40:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Bulls real lineup should look like this, if they hopefully make the move I suggested. Tyrus Thomas and Jerome James for Al Harrington, then when he becomes a free agent they should sign David Lee with his money. Then Kirk Hinrich, John Salmons and the Bulls 1st or 2nd round draft pick to Sacramento for my guy Kevin Martin and Beno Udrih.

Finally this is how the Bulls realistic starting lineup should look like for 2010-2011: 
PG: D. Rose
SG: Kevin Martin
SF: L. Deng
PF: David Lee
C: J. Noah
Bench
Taj Gibson
James Johnson
and some other free agent players

Don&#039;t forget Bass, the Bulls still have to sign D. Rose and J. Noah back with more money in order to keep them this year.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Bulls real lineup should look like this, if they hopefully make the move I suggested. Tyrus Thomas and Jerome James for Al Harrington, then when he becomes a free agent they should sign David Lee with his money. Then Kirk Hinrich, John Salmons and the Bulls 1st or 2nd round draft pick to Sacramento for my guy Kevin Martin and Beno Udrih.</p>
<p>Finally this is how the Bulls realistic starting lineup should look like for 2010-2011:<br />
PG: D. Rose<br />
SG: Kevin Martin<br />
SF: L. Deng<br />
PF: David Lee<br />
C: J. Noah<br />
Bench<br />
Taj Gibson<br />
James Johnson<br />
and some other free agent players</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t forget Bass, the Bulls still have to sign D. Rose and J. Noah back with more money in order to keep them this year.</p>
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		<title>By: felipe garcia</title>
		<link>http://bullsbythehorns.com/?p=1496&#038;cpage=1#comment-29635</link>
		<dc:creator>felipe garcia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Jan 2010 03:20:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What are you talking about Bass? who cares if Ginobli will be a free agent next year. What so good about having so much money if the Bulls won&#039;t be able to sign a top free agent player like Bosh, Wade or Joe Johnson this year. The Bulls will probably sign another older Ben Wallace type of player with all that money they have. At least with the trade for Kevin Martin it is not a stupid move because he is still young, he is a fantastic score which the Bulls are missing and he has a lot of millage left on him unlike Ginobli. Trust me, he will be a perfect fit in Chicago HINT: he is the cheaper version of Joe Johnson and D. Wade.  o0o and like your idea is any good Bass, you should do your research also. You said: Antwan Jamison and Tyrus Thomas to Toronto, Kirk Hinrich and a pick to Washington, and Chris Bosh to Chicago? yah like that will happen. 1st of all the Washington Wizard are not that stupid by giving up their star player for No star player in return just like bill Thomas told you this already and I totally agree with him. Try another move but, your almost their.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What are you talking about Bass? who cares if Ginobli will be a free agent next year. What so good about having so much money if the Bulls won&#8217;t be able to sign a top free agent player like Bosh, Wade or Joe Johnson this year. The Bulls will probably sign another older Ben Wallace type of player with all that money they have. At least with the trade for Kevin Martin it is not a stupid move because he is still young, he is a fantastic score which the Bulls are missing and he has a lot of millage left on him unlike Ginobli. Trust me, he will be a perfect fit in Chicago HINT: he is the cheaper version of Joe Johnson and D. Wade.  o0o and like your idea is any good Bass, you should do your research also. You said: Antwan Jamison and Tyrus Thomas to Toronto, Kirk Hinrich and a pick to Washington, and Chris Bosh to Chicago? yah like that will happen. 1st of all the Washington Wizard are not that stupid by giving up their star player for No star player in return just like bill Thomas told you this already and I totally agree with him. Try another move but, your almost their.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Jordan</title>
		<link>http://bullsbythehorns.com/?p=1496&#038;cpage=1#comment-29633</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael Jordan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jan 2010 20:17:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>lol @ signin bosh AND wade..keep dreamin, wade and king james will win a championship together next year</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>lol @ signin bosh AND wade..keep dreamin, wade and king james will win a championship together next year</p>
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		<title>By: Bass</title>
		<link>http://bullsbythehorns.com/?p=1496&#038;cpage=1#comment-29629</link>
		<dc:creator>Bass</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jan 2010 14:13:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey here is a little help Splick.  A list of expring contracts from off the Bulls team.

B.Miller 12,250,000
J.James   6,600,000
A.Gray    1,000,497
J.Pargo   1,990,000
L.Hunter    825,497

get rid of Kirk for expiring contracts another 9,500,000

Let T.Thomas go antoher 4,748,598

If J.Salmons ops out thats another 6,429,150</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey here is a little help Splick.  A list of expring contracts from off the Bulls team.</p>
<p>B.Miller 12,250,000<br />
J.James   6,600,000<br />
A.Gray    1,000,497<br />
J.Pargo   1,990,000<br />
L.Hunter    825,497</p>
<p>get rid of Kirk for expiring contracts another 9,500,000</p>
<p>Let T.Thomas go antoher 4,748,598</p>
<p>If J.Salmons ops out thats another 6,429,150</p>
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		<title>By: Bass</title>
		<link>http://bullsbythehorns.com/?p=1496&#038;cpage=1#comment-29628</link>
		<dc:creator>Bass</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jan 2010 13:56:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Splick do your homework before you come shooting holes in my scenario.  The Bulls have expring contracts coming off the books at the end of the year two in particular are B.Miller and J.James.  If the Bulls are sucessful with moving Hinrich for expiring contracts, trading Tyrus Thomas at the same time, and giving up their first round draft pick, will free up more money to sign a player to a max deal and a second player to almost near a max deal which I think Joe Johnson would take for a chance to come closer to a championship team with the line up of D.Rose, J.Johnson, L.Deng, C.Bosh, and J.Noah.  

And for the record K.Martin is signed for another 4 yrs, Manu Ginobli contract ends this year, so ultimately it would be smater to trade for his expiring contract to free up more money for the free agency.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Splick do your homework before you come shooting holes in my scenario.  The Bulls have expring contracts coming off the books at the end of the year two in particular are B.Miller and J.James.  If the Bulls are sucessful with moving Hinrich for expiring contracts, trading Tyrus Thomas at the same time, and giving up their first round draft pick, will free up more money to sign a player to a max deal and a second player to almost near a max deal which I think Joe Johnson would take for a chance to come closer to a championship team with the line up of D.Rose, J.Johnson, L.Deng, C.Bosh, and J.Noah.  </p>
<p>And for the record K.Martin is signed for another 4 yrs, Manu Ginobli contract ends this year, so ultimately it would be smater to trade for his expiring contract to free up more money for the free agency.</p>
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